Open sights?

[SandyCreek]

I’ve been looking for some options for an adjustable open sights set up for my muzzleloader.. are there any good options besides the Revic?

 

[NRA4LIFE]

I have Williams peep sight I am fond of.

 

[ElDiablito]

The Revic is a joke for the price.

A good rear peep like a Williams and the Williams Western Precision front globe with a small .019” fiber optic insert is about as good as it gets.

 

[SandyCreek]

Yeah no way I’m dropping that for a set of open sights just liked the idea of having an adjustable option without having to have holds

 

[Wrench]

I have posted videos of me dusting clay pigeons at 300 with my hawken and knight which both wear williams target adjustable rear with a gehmann iris and lyman fronts.

That's a pretty damn good setup for the money.....and you can piece it together as you go.

 

[Slugz]

Another plug for Williams. 200 yard very accurate shots with those are the norm .

 

[StupidLightweight]

There are two main types of rear iron sight: “open sights,” which use an unenclosed notch, and “aperture sights,” which use a circular hole.

If you’re upgrading sights on your muzzleloader, go aperture or go home. A Williams is the best option for money and performance, especially when paired with a good front sight. For being “primitive” aiming devices, aperture sights offer a shocking amount of precision.

 

[SandyCreek]

Thanks guys. I’ll check a set out. Doesn’t seem to be too expensive either.

 

[wapitispokes]

I have posted videos of me dusting clay pigeons at 300 with my hawken and knight which both wear williams target adjustable rear with a gehmann iris and lyman fronts.

That's a pretty damn good setup for the money.....and you can piece it together as you go.

Ha. I have the same set up, but I doubt I could hit clay pigeons at 300 yards. I went to Williams peep sights on my Knight "right away" after buying it, circa 1985....

 

[SandyCreek]

I have posted videos of me dusting clay pigeons at 300 with my hawken and knight which both wear williams target adjustable rear with a gehmann iris and lyman fronts.

That's a pretty damn good setup for the money.....and you can piece it together as you go.

What did you go with for the gehmann front? Seems like a ton of options

 

[Chris in TN]

I have a Lyman 57 on one muzzleloader and I have Williams peeps on a couple of other rifles.

Get the Williams, hands down.

 

[Wrench]

What did you go with for the gehmann front? Seems like a ton of options

It's a Gehmann iris for Parker hale iirc 7/32" threads and a lyman 17ah front if I recall correctly.

The lyman front matches the rear aperture SOOOOO much better than the monster williams.

 

[guitarpreston]

last year I was dead set on “I need to be able to dial”…rigged out a Williams western front globe and full proof rear. I’ve completely revamped and built a new rifle this year and decided on a fixed sight and setting it up for MPBR would be a much superior setup given the limitations of my eyes. With my 45 I can be in the goods beyond 250 and don’t want to shoot much beyond 200

 

[texag10]

last year I was dead set on “I need to be able to dial”…rigged out a Williams western front globe and full proof rear. I’ve completely revamped and built a new rifle this year and decided on a fixed sight and setting it up for MPBR would be a much superior setup given the limitations of my eyes. With my 45 I can be in the goods beyond 250 and don’t want to shoot much beyond 200

So you did not find any real benefit to being able to dial at ranges you could see well enough to shoot an animal?

Asking because I've ordered my first ML for an elk tag I should draw this year, and was all set on the same Williams setup. I know enough to start asking questions when my "great" idea (dialing with irons) hasn't caught on with people actually ML hunting.

Would love @ElDiablito 's input too. I bought one of the blem Woodsman g3s because of you.

 

[guitarpreston]

Did you get a 50 cal blem? Do you know your muzzle velocity? Once you get that, you can punch it into jbm ballistics and get your MPBR. If their target size is a big too big for you thats fine, just tweak your zero distance. If I zero my rifle at 200, at 100 it is 3 inches high, and at 250 4.5 inches low. Considering a deers vitals are 8-10 inches in diameter that should put me in the money that far without touching anything.
Elk vitals are pretty big.
Don't over think your system, trust me...Im world class at overthinking things with mediocre results.

 

[Pilsner]

I've had several hunting muzzle loaders over the years and tried about everything. Finally settled on rear peep and fiber optic front post with protective hood. As stated above, finding the correct sized front sight to match your rear peep aperture is paramount for accuracy.
In our forest where primitive weapon season happens when there is still quite a bit of leaves still around can be quite dark, especially at first and last light. For that reason, I've moved to a rear peep with trijicon/fiber optic dots on each side of the aperture. Paired with a fiber optic front post it pairs well, especially on something like a black bear's fur. Great combo on close range quickness and longer-range precision when correctly set up. I have zero issues ringing our 300 yard steel with my current budget set up.

 

[texag10]

I did get a .50 blem, and added on their iron sight set. Purchased a little over a week ago and they haven't shipped yet, so no idea on muzzle velocity. I'm planning to try federal bor lock lead 350gr and Hornady ELDX bore driver 340gr over loose triple 7 or pyrodex select (depends on what I can easily get) measured by weight.

I plan on doing a pretty tight version of MPBR (or maybe just a 100yd zero for consistency with centerfire) and rely on holding over a bit as ranges get longer. I want to avoid stacking my errors with the extreme high and lows of MPBR that could turn into a poor hit.

 

[guitarpreston]

I do not know about their iron sight set, I think the front fiber is pretty big. I use a .010 and ElDiablito uses a .019. This is highly dependent on muzzle velocity etc, but probably a 150 yard zero would be my choice. In the money on an elk within 150, between 150 and 200 its going to drop quite a bit, but a manageable holdover.

You'll spend all this time working on the perfect dialable sight setup and shoot your animal offhand within bow range...Ask me how I know

 

[texag10]

I do not know about their iron sight set, I think the front fiber is pretty big. I use a .010 and ElDiablito uses a .019. This is highly dependent on muzzle velocity etc, but probably a 150 yard zero would be my choice. In the money on an elk within 150, between 150 and 200 its going to drop quite a bit, but a manageable holdover.

You'll spend all this time working on the perfect dialable sight setup and shoot your animal offhand within bow range...Ask me how I know

Lots of time dialing in centerfire out to 600 last hunting season from a variety of positions....cow elk at 80 yds through a tiny gap in trees, seated off trekking poles, mule deer buck at 40 yds offhand in trees.