I already had a bunch of open country but I bought some subalpine pants and lightweight hoodies for early season elk. I totally agree that both patterns are probably for the most part equally effective on ungulates. But after seeing several videos of guys in the subalpine pattern disappear in the elk woods I was sold, not so much for hiding from elk, but to avoid the human eye. Elk can't see very well so camo doesn't matter much in my experience, but I really like to remain hidden from other hunters. Maybe that is ridiculous, but I liked the lightweight hoodies a lot anyway and needed a couple new pairs of pants. I also got a couple of the hoodies in open country for stalking the sage country for archery antelope.