On hunting with less efficient weapons

[BigDewberry]

Thats a blanket statement that is simply not true.

You have obviously never hunted PJ country.....

Okay so qualify your statement.
Is it flat? No cover? What situation would require you to shoot lets say beyond 300 yards?

 

[HandgunHTR]

I can get behind bow hunting and do it myself despite knowing its not the best choice. Long range hunting (300 yard +) is pure ego and a bad look for all hunters. At some point you are just target practicing on live targets.

I have some heavy skepticism that a shooter with a cold barrel and in hunting conditions can make 10/10 shots at those distances. I can make shot well beyond 600 yards on a bench rest and no time pressure.

Lets see them get 5 hours of sleep in a tent with 3 smelly dudes, hike 5 miles, glass the entire day. sit around in the cold for 9 hours, then make a shot all pent up and excited to see if they can make it.

I agree those shots are possible. I'm just not sure why you would take a shot like that when you can easily move in closer. People bow hunt these animals, its not like getting to 150 yards is impossible or even that difficult.

There is quite a bit of projection in these posts. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean that someone else can't either.

I have no problem taking a 70-yard shot with my bow, a 300 yard shot with one of my handguns, or a 600 yard shot with my rifle. The reason for this is practice. If you want to be effective, you have to put in the work. Sure, if all you do is shoot 30 yards in your back yard or shoot to 100 from a bench, then I agree, you shouldn't be trying to make 70-yard bow shots or 600 yard rifle shots. However, if you put the work in, neither of those things are the boogy-woogy that most make them out to be.

Take a look at the Cold-bore challenge threads. Some pretty good shots here on the forum.

 

[BigDewberry]

Take a look at the Cold-bore challenge threads. Some pretty good shots here on the forum.

That thread does not increase my confidence in long range hunters. Plenty of those posts have misses or 'hits' that would be bad shots on an animal. I'm happy they can shoot out that far but they should stick to hitting steel.

Its the same issue with archery and goes with the original point of this thread. All you are doing is talking about how under optimal conditions, with tons of training, with the right xyz you can use a means or method to take an animal. I agree many of the people in that thread can hunt at long ranges, but the questions is why? The answer is its exciting for the hunter. Neither you nor the archery people address the topic of an ethical kill for the animal.

It all boils down to being bored a rifle at reasonable ranges, sub 300 yards, and it being more fun for the hunter. No thought to the animal at all.

There is quite a bit of projection in these posts. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean that someone else can't either.

I'm not projecting, I am asking you to honestly take a look at why you are using sub-optimal means to kill an animal.

 

[BlackTail]

Long range hunting (300 yard +) is pure ego and a bad look for all hunters. At some point you are just target practicing on live targets.

I have some heavy skepticism that a shooter with a cold barrel and in hunting conditions can make 10/10 shots at those distances.

So can I assume, from the reasoning in your two posts, (i.e. always getting closer and probability for hits to be 100%) that you have NEVER missed a shot?

 

[BigDewberry]

So can I assume, from the reasoning in your two posts, (i.e. always getting closer and probability for hits to be 100%) that you have NEVER missed a shot?

With a rifle at reasonable distances when shooting an animal? You are correct, I have never missed. I only take shots I am 100% confident in.

I'm assuming by your post you miss animals and take bad shots. In that case I recommend practice.

 

[BlackTail]

With a rifle at reasonable distances when shooting an animal? You are correct, I have never missed. I only take shots I am 100% confident in.

I'm assuming by your post you miss animals and take bad shots. In that case I recommend practice.

I figured you for one of those guys.

 

[Beendare]

Okay so qualify your statement.
Is it flat? No cover? What situation would require you to shoot lets say beyond 300 yards?

I'm not trying to be smug, when you finally hunt the Southwest PJ country...you will understand. The guys that have hunted it know exactly what I'm talking about.....