NW Montana mid November, what clothing

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I have an elk/deer combo hunt booked in mid November 2027. I have some what I believe are decent clothes but I know I’m lacking in some areas.

I currently feel like I have base layers covered having anything from Kuiu 118 weight merino to Black Ovis 240 weight. Most of my pants are Kuiu Attack and my heaviest jacket is a Kuiu Guide DCS.

I feel like I need an insulating layer for glassing (puffy) and wind layer and a rain layer.

There are so many choices out there it’s overwhelming, and it’s not cheap. I have plenty of time to put together a solid system and I don’t mind spending them money. I just don’t want to waste any money on inferior products due to ignorance on my part.

So give me some suggestions on what works for you by the systems listed above so I can start looking around and building a solid hunting clothing system.

This will be a lodge based hunt, but there is the option to tent camp as well. I’ll ask the outfitter if I need to consider a sleep system as well.


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dwhite0622

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Congrats on booking your trip. I’m sure it will be a great adventure. November in Montana can be fickle. A few pieces that I find myself reaching for constantly are a good mid layer (something like the Sitka Ambient) and a good puffy. I’ve had success with synthetic and down puffys, and most of the brands have similar options. The warmth to weight ratio is amazing with some of the newer pieces. @mtwarden always has good advice on this kind of deal. I’m sure you can find some of his reviews and posts on gear pieces specified to NW Montana. Good luck with your trip.
 
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You’ve got it narrowed down to what you need (puffies and rain gear), and You are correct. Now don’t overthink it and get them. I have the Kuiu pufffy pro pant and jacket and some lightweight Kuiu rain gear. It works. Also have some good gloves.
 
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For a puffy, Europtic still has the Stone Glacier Grumann on sale for $200. It's a deal at that price, but I wouldn't pay full retail price for it. They also have an Under Armour down jacket on sale for less than $100. Kuiu will have a few sales on down between now and your trip. Also watch for end of winter sales coming up. It doesn't have to be a hunting brand. And u don't need a wind AND rain layer. Buy a rain jacket and use it to cut the wind. By that time in NW MT, any precipitation is likely to be snow anyway.

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peterk123

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My basic setup is long johns and pants with a sidezip. Medium to heavy socks and uninsulated boots.

For the body I wear merino base layer, a thin mid layer and a heavy midlayer. Over that goes a windstopper jacket. Depending on the day, I have either a light or heavy down jacket and puffy pants. Those usually only come out when I'm sitting for a period of time, like when whitetail hunting or glassing. If it's a cold one, I bring bootcovers for long sits. Rain gear is always in the pack unless it's so cold that it can only snow. Then I usually pull it. I also always have a little foam pad for sitting. It's incredible how the cold ground can strip you of heat in a matter of minutes.

This setup covers me for the wild swings in temps around here. 20 degrees in the morning the 50 when the sun comes out. Plus, I'm a pretty skinny dude so I need layers.

Also, this setup allows me to keep my body cool if I need to, like when you have to lug an animal out on your back.
 

rratzlaff1490

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Besides a puffy, if there is room on the budget, I would suggest Kuiu Axis Hybrid pants as well. They have sort of a liner on the inside of them and water proof outers on the butt. They’re warm. I wore them in the mountains around Ennis is late November (0-10 F average temp) with a base layer underneath the axis pants and felt like I could have gotten away with put the base layer. I would also suggest making sure your gear is comfortable with adding on protection for G bears
 

jimh406

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The elevation that you hunt at can make a difference, but also the weather varies a lot. I'd talk to the outfitter and go with their recommendations. It could be anything from 0 and windy to 60 and sunny.
 
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