Not many noslers

[K9kodi]

270/30-06 brass is near the bottom as far as cost across the spectrum. 300WM jumps up a bit, the Noslers jump way up in cost by about 2x over 270/30-06(peterson vs peterson)

reloading cost is largely a volume thing. the higher the volume, the wider the gaps in cost become(total cost, not price per round).

for instance, 6.5 creedmoor uses about half the powder that 26 nosler uses. if you reload 100 its not that big a deal(4250ish grains vs 7050gr) or about $34.60 vs $55.39 using Staball 6.5 for the creed and Staball HD for the Nosler. if you reload 1000, its MUCH more powder cost difference..... $346 vs $553.90

Thats JUST the powder component. Brass being double IMO means you will want to invest in an annealing setup so you can make the brass last as long as possible.

EDIT: my initial math was wrong....forgot some zeros, corrected
EDIT2: math was still wrong, and used Staball HD for Nosler, corrected

Thank you. I do reload with my pops for some bonding time, have since I was barely able to see over the bench. I know how and understand the concept, it’s just that with my dad getting out less he finds himself reloading more for us and that typically means he purchases everything and we just show up.

 

[One300wsm]

What does any of that have to do with why noslers big cartridges have dwindling popularity?

Guess it got off subject when people comment that the reason was smaller cartridges less recoil and bigger wound channels. I can’t factually say the Noslers aren’t popular I have 2 28 Noslers and know plenty of other people that shoot them, some people care less about recoil as I do. Guess we could do a poll and see. I understand stand the logic of some people wanting to shoot a smaller less recoil cartridge but to say that a 6 CM 108 ELD-M 2200 fps/1227 ftlb at 500 yards is going to make a bigger wound channel than a 28 Nosler with a 180 ELD-M 2502 fps/2502 ftlb is just a false statement. But each of us have the right to there opinions.

 

[bnewt3]

Thank you. I do reload with my pops for some bonding time, have since I was barely able to see over the bench. I know how and understand the concept, it’s just that with my dad getting out less he finds himself reloading more for us and that typically means he purchases everything and we just show up.

thats a sweet gig

 

[The Guide]

Yea to 28 Nosler about 10 grains more H1000 than a 7 PRC for same results agree But he did add the old wound channel BS in there. The wound channel between the two would be the same with both using a 1-8 twist barrel. And if you think a 6CM at 500 yards is going to have more killing power than a 28 Nosler or a 7 PRC you’re mistakenly fooled.

It will never be an apples to apples comparison between a Nosler (26, 28, or 30) and the companion PRC (6.5, 7, and 300) due to factory (and SAAMI approved) twist rates. Every Nosler cartridge is twisted slower and is more overbore than it's PRC companion for no noticeable performance gain when shot with the same bullets and same length barrel in factory form (factory barrel and factory ammo). Basically, the Nosler line does too much for too little.

As for the 6CM, if it has adequate terminal performance at "xxx" distance why would you want to use something else if "xxx" distance is your maximum range?

Jay

 

[LongWayAround]

Too funny!! Best of the West was doing this when most on here were in diapers. They used a 7mmRM with a Berger 160 gr VLD bullet, they made Berger what it is today dumping animals at 500 to 1000 yards DRT. To say a 28 Nosler cant do the same is non sense. I’m an EXO Mountain gear user and love their stuff. Steve shoots a 6 CM and his buddy Jake shoots a 7 SAUM and if you watch the Alaska video you will see the 7SAUM caribou is DRT and the 6CM caribou sucks it up same with the moose. I own and shoot a 204 Ruger, 222rem, 223rem,6CM, 243win,25CM, 6.5CM, 6.5RPM, 270wsm, 7mm08, 280AI, 7RM, 7STW, 28 Nosler, 300 Blackout, 308win, 300wsm, 300wm, 338RPM, 450 bushmaster, 460 S&W, 45-70Gov., 45-70 turned into a smokeless muzzleloader I’ve used numerous types of bullets from 45gr Hornady to a 300gr Parker and killed my fair share of animals more than most so I’m not ignorant to the fact of what can kill what and some people don’t mind recoil. Any living creature shot through the lungs is going to die common knowledge. It’s funny if you talk about the small calibers and target bullets on here you get silenced and cancelled like leftest liberals use to do on Twitter, thank god for Elon Musk. So let’s see if I get silenced for an opinion that’s normally what happens.

Those animals shot with the 6cm were dead in seconds. They did not "suck it up." The caribou shot with a 7 was a high shoulder shot if I recall.

There are plenty of moose videos out there where the animal stands around while taking multiple hits from magnum rifles. I guess they're all just "sucking it up."

 

[ResearchinStuff]

Guess it got off subject when people comment that the reason was smaller cartridges less recoil and bigger wound channels. I can’t factually say the Noslers aren’t popular I have 2 28 Noslers and know plenty of other people that shoot them, some people care less about recoil as I do. Guess we could do a poll and see. I understand stand the logic of some people wanting to shoot a smaller less recoil cartridge but to say that a 6 CM 108 ELD-M 2200 fps/1227 ftlb at 500 yards is going to make a bigger wound channel than a 28 Nosler with a 180 ELD-M 2502 fps/2502 ftlb is just a false statement. But each of us have the right to there opinions.

Big enough is not the same as bigger. You are asserting that other people said things they did not actually say.

 

[One300wsm]

It will never be an apples to apples comparison between a Nosler (26, 28, or 30) and the companion PRC (6.5, 7, and 300) due to factory (and SAAMI approved) twist rates. Every Nosler cartridge is twisted slower and is more overbore than it's PRC companion for no noticeable performance gain when shot with the same bullets and same length barrel in factory form (factory barrel and factory ammo). Basically, the Nosler line does too much for too little.

As for the 6CM, if it has adequate terminal performance at "xxx" distance why would you want to use something else if "xxx" distance is your maximum range?

Jay

You make a good point wasn’t thinking factory most everyone on here has custom gun. My 2 28 Noslers have 1-7 twist so non issue. As for the 6CM abilities to be 400 yards on an animal under 300 lbs. So when I’m hunting for something bigger at more distance I carry something more capable.

 

[bnewt3]

Im not sure "most everyone on here has custom gun" is a known fact.

Lots of people come here for information and talk about custom guns, but I dont think it should be assumed that means most people here have one.

Also, custom is an awfully broad term.......could mean anything from a shortened factory barrel, or a bells and whistles factory takeoff stock on their plain jane rifle, up to a full build, depending on who you ask.

 

[LongWayAround]

Im not sure "most everyone on here has custom gun" is a known fact.

Lots of people come here for information and talk about custom guns, but I dont think it should be assumed that means most people here have one.

Also, custom is an awfully broad term.......could mean anything from a shortened factory barrel, or a bells and whistles factory takeoff stock on their plain jane rifle, up to a full build, depending on who you ask.

Seems like that should be obvious doesn't it? It's like saying everyone shoots 300" bulls every season since those are the pictures they want to share.

 

[One300wsm]

Seems like that should be obvious doesn't it? It's like saying everyone shoots 300" bulls every season since those are the pictures they want to share.

And gobblers

 

[Mike D Texas]

I don’t give a flip about barrel life, that’s the cheapest component in a rifle system typically.

But why in the world Nosler thinks the ammo or brass for their cartridge is so valuable I don’t know.

Price of brass is significantly higher than other similar cartridges and ammo prices are just ridiculous.

I own a 26 Nosler and it is a hammer but it is a low volume shooter because of the high cost of components.

4.6 MIL to 1000 yards
11.3 MIL to a mile

156 Berger EOL launched at 3350. Ive run it up to 3480 during pressure ladder testing.


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[K9kodi]

thats a sweet gig

Yea, I mean I did buy him the nice Dillon rl550b for his pistols, he still runs single stage for the rifles. I always enjoyed it, I just never had a price tag around the components cause he’s stockpiled. Always save your brass! He’d say