Nice try Mr. ATF man

[Smithb9841]

Meant to post this last week when it happened but flipping through YouTube and have the add (picture below) show up as recommended. They are advertising “aluminum oil filters”. Nice try Mr ATF man but you’re not fooling me Today.

Anyone else seen something similar?

 

[gbflyer]

Meant to post this last week when it happened but flipping through YouTube and have the add (picture below) show up as recommended. They are advertising “aluminum oil filters”. Nice try Mr ATF man but you’re not fooling me Today.

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Does it work good?


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[Smithb9841]

Does it work good?


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I figured it wasn’t a scam in the sense where
They take your money and don’t send what you ordered but more the type where they send you your order and then an ATF team kicks in your door, shoots your dogs and then takes you to jail .

 

[WKR]

I figured it wasn’t a scam in the sense where
They take your money and don’t send what you ordered but more the type where they send you your order and then an ATF team kicks in your door, shoots your dogs and then takes you to jail .

Doubtful...more like a Chinese company that doesn't give a f about American laws.

 

[Weldor]

I figured it wasn’t a scam in the sense where
They take your money and don’t send what you ordered but more the type where they send you your order and then an ATF team kicks in your door, shoots your dogs and then takes you to jail .

Your expecting alot from the ATFE, you really want them to do something. LOL (humor boys)

 

[ChrisAU]

If you have a dog that needs to bet put down its probably cheaper than the vet.

 

[Smithb9841]

If you have a dog that needs to bet put down its probably cheaper than the vet.

I’m good there I actually like my dogs now if they could come put a dent in my neighbors 15 or so cats that would be great

 

[intunegp]

These have been all over Temu/AliExpress/Wish/etc. just as long as oil filter adapters and solvent traps. Somebody must be buying them.

Back in the day they were very clear to advertise that there was no hole drilled in the end cap and I'm sure that's still the case. I believe the term the fed boys use surrounding SBRs and various rifle part storage is constructive intent and I'm sure the same thing would apply here.

 

[StupidLightweight]

Back in 2015, I sent in a Form 1 to build a suppressor. If you recall, this was before they changed the trust requirements. Once approved, I bought a similar contraption to that and welded a tube over top. It worked great.

 

[Johnnybobcat]

I know two guys who bought some “fuel filters” from eBay a few years back. Both ordered on the same day when they found them on break at work.

One of them got theirs in the mail, the other one (who had just got his citizenship in the U.S ) got a letter from homeland security.

 

[Luke S]

A person in the industry told me he would not personally buy something like this unless he had already been approved to Form 1 a suppressor. Word was the ATF was keeping an eye on such things.
I actually thought about doing a Form 1 suppressor but by the time I spent $200 on a stamp and money on nicer parts I wasn't saving all that much over a regular suppressor that I knew would work. So I never tried this.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I was under the impression that until you drill a hole through the end cap, there are. I laws being broken.

That’s not to say that the ATF couldn’t monitor sales then pay people a surprise visit down the road.

I actually bumped into a guy once who had one and told me all about how he drilled the hole, seems like he didn’t even realize how illegal what he did was.

 

[HandgunHTR]

Back in the day, you could buy the parts, submit your Form 1, and then when it was approved, drill and assemble.

I have a pretty decent Form 1 suppressor. Ti tube that was machined without the end cap drilled (it was marked, however) some SS freeze plugs, a couple of Ti valve spring covers as my blast baffles and a piece of Ti tubing for my blast chamber spacing. All said and done it cost me about $400 in parts and tools. At the time the cheapest commercial suppressor you could get was about $700 and weighed about 22 oz without the QD mount.

 

[dirtshooter]

I've seen one work, well it made it quieter but not sure if that is the definition of working

 

[CorbLand]

I was under the impression that until you drill a hole through the end cap, there are. I laws being broken.

That’s not to say that the ATF couldn’t monitor sales then pay people a surprise visit down the road.

I actually bumped into a guy once who had one and told me all about how he drilled the hole, seems like he didn’t even realize how illegal what he did was.

I overheard someone buy an AR pistol saying how he was going to buy a different, adjustable stock for it. Not the best thing to say while waiting for your credit card to go through.

Didn’t a bunch of people get busted for buying full auto sears for there glock air soft guns a couple years ago?

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I overheard someone buy an AR pistol saying how he was going to buy a different, adjustable stock for it. Not the best thing to say while waiting for your credit card to go through.

Didn’t a bunch of people get busted for buying full auto sears for there glock air soft guns a couple years ago?

I think they did. Not sure if they needed to be installed to be illegal or if just owning them was illegal.

If it is legal to own a “solvent trap” until a hole is drilled in the cap, it would be interesting if somebody bought one and didn’t alter it to see if the ATF ever showed up.

I believe there was a thing a few years ago where a company was selling form 1 stuff and it was deemed illegal by the atf, there are videos of atf agents going to peoples houses to talk to them about it. I don’t know what ever came of it though.

 

[intunegp]

Again, I think this is where constructive intent might come into play. As it relates to SBRs, there's always been a ton of confusion and argument, but the generally agreed upon stance is that you don't have a problem unless you only own parts that could be assembled into an NFA configuration. For example, there's no problem with owning both an AR pistol and rifle...while you could theoretically assemble an unregistered SBR with the parts you own, you have the benefit of the doubt that you just own two separate, complete, and legal firearms.

Going to a store and walking out with a pistol upper and a rifle lower, while not technically illegal, might give the impression that you intend to mate the two once you get home, and you might draw some attention.

I've always assumed it was kind of a "tack-it-on" charge when they want to throw the book at you, but the solvent trap/fuel filter thing has always seemed pretty blatant. I'm sure someone somewhere out there has bought them and used them as nothing more than a solvent trap, but a solvent trap doesn't need baffles. I don't think anyone is buying them not knowing that you're a drilled hole away from something illegal. If there was a legitimate use case for them with no legal conundrum I'd think you'd see them on the market from all the major cleaning companies too rather than only being available from foreign sellers on questionable websites.

If someone were going to buy one and use it as a solvent trap as advertised, I'd think they would be wise to have one hell of a cleaning bench setup with a plethora of bore/barrel solvents and a safe full of spotless rifles to be ready to argue that they are a maintenance fanatic and their newly acquired solvent trap was just another piece of kit to aid in their OCD cleaning tendencies.

 

[Luke S]

I forgot to add but the sketchy nature of the websites was another red flag. Is your credit card number safe there?

I remember when 80% lowers were becoming a thing. Seems like someone always pushed their luck until they get in trouble. That seems to be the case here. Someone is making a buck selling glorified scrap metal. Some people might get in trouble with it but the metal supplier probably won't. Just do your own homework on legality.

 

[DangerRanger]

I think they did. Not sure if they needed to be installed to be illegal or if just owning them was illegal.

If it is legal to own a “solvent trap” until a hole is drilled in the cap, it would be interesting if somebody bought one and didn’t alter it to see if the ATF ever showed up.

I believe there was a thing a few years ago where a company was selling form 1 stuff and it was deemed illegal by the atf, there are videos of atf agents going to peoples houses to talk to them about it. I don’t know what ever came of it though.

Probably diversified machine, who eventually killed himself before sentencing over that.

FWIW those kits were not drilled