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Gobbler36

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Did anyone listen to this one yet? I want to give it a go with an open mind but if it’s all about how it’s the white mans fault black dudes don’t hunt I think I’ll pass
 
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I listened. The dialog in the beginning talks about how this guest was supposed to be on much earlier but Covid bumped her down a few months until all of the racial stuff stirred up.

I admire and agree with the mission of the guest.

It seemed to me to come down to "this is the perception minorities have while accessing nature and there isn't much you can do to change it." Maybe I need to listen again to get something else out of it.

I think it was a good conversation but didn't really focus on hunting, which I thought it might.
 
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Your initial assumption is way off. It already sounds like you don't want to "give it a go with an open mind". I'm about half way through and I miss these type of thought-provoking MeatEater podcasts.
No it doesn’t I simply stating what I’m hoping it doesn’t turn into, and if it’s not then I’m ready for a listen. Pretty simple if you can comprehend words
 
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I listened. The dialog in the beginning talks about how this guest was supposed to be on much earlier but Covid bumped her down a few months until all of the racial stuff stirred up.

I admire and agree with the mission of the guest.

It seemed to me to come down to "this is the perception minorities have while accessing nature and there isn't much you can do to change it." Maybe I need to listen again to get something else out of it.

I think it was a good conversation but didn't really focus on hunting, which I thought it might.
Cool
I’ll check it out
 

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Definitely thought provoking but a lot of it seemed very “damned if you do damned if you don’t” type of scenarios. Be accepting but not too accepting. Help get minorities into the outdoors but don’t be too helpful because that’s looking down on a minority group. Ignore them in the woods but don’t ignore them either because even though statistically speaking very few minorities take part in the outdoors it shouldn’t be weird to see them there.

my head hurts... awww crap is that a sign of covid?
 
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Definitely thought provoking but a lot of it seemed very “damned if you do damned if you don’t” type of scenarios. Be accepting but not too accepting. Help get minorities into the outdoors but don’t be too helpful because that’s looking down on a minority group. Ignore them in the woods but don’t ignore them either because even though statistically speaking very few minorities take part in the outdoors it shouldn’t be weird to see them there.

my head hurts... awww crap is that a sign of covid?

Seems the best way to avoid these conundrums would be to approach introducing others to the outdoors the same regardless of skin color.
 

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Seems the best way to avoid these conundrums would be to approach introducing others to the outdoors the same regardless of skin color.

but she also kept saying “you need to see us” as in their race. I get what she was saying but you can see how it can get confusing and a bit frustrating to all involved.
 

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As hunters we need everyone on our side that we can get. If certain groups of people are less likely than others to enjoy our wonderful hobby then that is who we need to be targeting to get involved.
 
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It was a good listen, recommend.

My one takeaway was to have more open/direct conversations with my black friends.

I also think: the podcast was one person's opinions and not necessarily reflective of a community or population. Everyone gets their own voice. I certainly would hesitate to name any one of you my spokesperson just because you like huntin' like I do.
 

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Thought is was a very thought provoking interview. Rinella has a great way of naming conundrums and stereotypes, in a pretty honest way. The guests parallel with smoking struck me. Thought it named alot, without putting shame or blame on a group. Refreshing dialogue for my ears.

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I would encourage everyone to read Up From
Slavery by Booker T Washington. Some thoughts in that book (to me) connect to the topic. Also, in a similar vein, I was talking to a very close friend one time. She’s Chinese but grew up in Malaysia. I asked her once if she wanted to go camping with us. She said, “I spent my life until the age of 20 trying to work my way out of poverty in theMalaysian countryside so that I would never have to live like that again, why would I Intentionally sleep on the ground and wipe my butt with leaves?”

the point being that people’s preferences and desiresto spend time outside has more to do than with whatwe think is so great about it.
 
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One of the most pleasant and engaging conversations I ever had in a SWA parking lot was with a fellow from Laos. He was just a plain old nice guy to talk with. I shared some elk jerkey with him and his father (whom I don't think spoke a word of english) but the common thread of a love of the outdoors and the hunt couldn't be more apparent. We probably BS'd for close to an hour, trading stories about our previous elk hunts and talking about our experiences hunting deer on the SWA we were at. I don't much care what color or ethnicity a man is when it comes to a shared appreciation and respect for our natural resources. In fact, it doesn't enter my mind.... I would like to believe ethnicity/skin color is a non-issue for most.
 
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I enjoyed it. It is often easy to forget that every single person has a unique mindset and world experience that has shaped their opinion since birth. I grew up and work in a down town environment that was very rough. My childhood weekends and summers were filled with an escape to the outdoors until we eventually moved out there in my teenage years. Knowing the environment and culture of folks in the ghetto and the lack of any education or experience offered to them, it is not surprising many minorities never have the mindset to do what so many rural people think of as normal.

I have a young man who I work with who was entirely bewildered at the idea that people still ''actually shot bows and arrows'' or hunted for their own food. A total alien concept. I enjoyed Rinella bringing someone onto the podcast who specifically targeted this demographic of people. I can think of 1 black person I have met in 3 of the proshops I visit weekly/monthly and all of the 3D shoots I do in the last 15 years. I think many of them simply are entirely unaware of the entire world in which we live in.

It is very important to keep an open mind to the differences many people view their world and accept their idea as ''different but normal'' rather than ''different and wrong'' if we expect them to do the same for us.
 

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Where I grew up in rural West TN, there was/still is a decent chunk of the local black population who are big time hunters, raising rabbit, squirrel and Coon dogs. There’s even a local Black tradition of serving smoked raccoon for Thanksgiving day breakfast and if you go into local Black owned restaurants, there’s taxidermy on the walls. I didn’t think about it much growing up, but whenever I go back, it’s immediately apparent and I think it’s awesome.
 

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I do wish Steve would have told her when she said it was uncomfortable to be out hunting and having people giving her the 3rd degree about why she was there and what she was doing that that is what hunters do to everyone. Someone shows up in your spot it doesn't matter what they look like your gonna be asking some questions.
 
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