Newer shooter with questions

[35WhelenAI]

You’ve stated multiple times that the blast from your 270 bothers you. Get rid of the brake and get yourself a decent suppressor. It’ll eliminate enough of the blast to make it comfortable to shoot and reduce recoil plenty on a 270. Also, there’s a reason people call the tikka 223 combo the rokslide special, cause it works.
You can also pick up a t3x stock and drop your t3 into it. Hell, if you pay shipping I’ll give you one. Replace the recoil pad, add vertical grip and a decent can and you’ve got a fine hunting rifle for anything in NA. Used stocky’s vg stocks are also pretty solid for what they cost. Don’t overthink this.

OP, you need to be on this yesterday. That's a deal on a stock.

As the above post says, multiple times you've mentioned it and multiple times folks have offered the sound advice to get rid of the brake. It's been said the brake is the issue by people who have years of experience with them and have been around them for decades in the shooting community. .270 Win doesn't have hardly any recoil with a brake. And personally it doesn't have that much recoil without a brake either.

Here's a cheap and easy hack. Remove the brake, tape up the threads to protect them with electrical tape. Head to the range and shoot any number of shots and come back to report what you experience and the difference between braked and non-braked.

 

[Caseknife]

I hate brakes, they make my teeth rattle it seems. Yep, get rid of the brake and it won't be as bad to shoot. Still won't be able to spot your shots, but that is not the end of the world.

 

[Formidilosus]

Is it just me or does it just seem crazy that these shooting classes that are very often only two days cost 2500-4500 dollars?

Find a better place.

In my other world I run very challenging white water. I’ve done most all the challenging multi day trips including 27 days on the Colorado in the grand canyon and many class 4/5 day runs that are super life threatening. There is no way anyone would pay for that kinda instruction. You can do a 6 day guide course that includes first aid and swift water rescue for 600-800 bucks.

There is a very large difference between whitewater and truly competent shooting.

I can buy 6 of the rifles I ordered yesterday for two days of hiking with a heavy pack in the snow in big timber.

And those two rifles will have you just as incompetent as you are now. You will never learn in a lifetime of shooting on your own, what you will from a truly high quality course.

Lol. Iam not saying they arent awsome or they aren’t worth every penny of it (to their wives) but who the F can afford that? And if you can afford that you dont need that or you can hunt on private and they can dress your elk for you. I dunno.

You’re making a lot of assumptions here.

Just kinda shocking to think that blue collar kids are shooting 10k dollar rifles at a 5k dollar one day courses ? Wtf? Shit i bought my very first home for 17 grand lol. Just a rant but the whole para-military weird money thing seems a bit un healthy a little. Shit you’ll ruin a young guys marriage with those prices lol!

What place are you talking about for training?

 

[Pinchecharlie]

The only courses I could find online were specialty shooting or shooting/hunter specific and started at 2500 going towards 5k . I did find hand gun training around 500. Shoot to hunt was recommended and isn’t far from me in big timber and then there’s another that’s more like a tactical/long range shooting out near three forks I think It’s around 2500
The comparison to whitewater is more a -danger and expertise related comparison . It’s way way more dangerous and skill oriented to run class 5 ww than to go shooting at the rang unless of course you’re a complete **** witt or you go with the guy who killed the navy seal guy.
Incompetent isn’t the word really. I’d say that being competent is very subjective. In fact I’ve yet to meet or see the upper echelon of shooters or hunters that are the gold standard online . I live in a very in your face place for mountain sports and hunting. I see the tv hunters a round town and there’s alot of shops and businesses for guns and hunting. Point iam making is most normal guys arent those guys and shouldn’t just be labeled “incompetent “ ya know? Iam a very safe guy. I ve had multiple wilderness first aid stuff and rescue stuff and blah blah that’s why I said Holly crap this stuff is over the top for that training. I did a on river wilderness medicine woofer combined with rescue training last year in Oregon on three rivers for 600 bucks for three days. A back country motorized avalanche and rescue course three days for 400 something. I did that with gallatin avalanche trainees and sat. Just saying I was surprised is all not bashing them and the assumption isn’t to far off when the training descriptions actually said to prepare to carry a heavy pack in the snow. That isn’t fun lol!I get it though it’s marketed towards a survival thing. As a guy who’s spent “the night on the mountain “ I get it. I can hunt on a very famous ranch near by for 5k . Thats why I made that comparison. I can’t afford to do that by the way but a buddy of mine has the hook up. It’s just kindov exspensive I guess and as a community that wants the rest of the world to think it’s “safe” the offerings are scarce and put the majority of the market place out of the market. Ya know? Sour grapes? A little. I paid less than 100k for my house here lol. It’s a shit hole and my new neighbor paid 800k. Iam normal poor, i went to a expert gun shop yesterday and they couldn’t be bothered to help me because they knew I couldn’t buy to much in the store. I go to sportsman’s and I know more. You know what I mean. No pissing match for me! Just like I said Ranty rant. On a more positive note, I think I found a list of people who do private training so maybe I can get help affordably lol!
Rifle has shipped so hopefully soon I can put my money where my mouth is and stop being online so much! Thanks

 

[LBWV]

I ve had multiple wilderness first aid stuff and rescue I did a on river wilderness medicine woofer combined with rescue training last year in Oregon on three rivers for 600 bucks for three days.

I’m guessing that was a wilderness first aid class and not a WFR (Wilderness First Responder). A WFR class costs $700-1000 and takes 5-10 days.

I’ve been kayaking for 24 years and half of that time I was paddling 300 days a year. Whitewater and firearm instruction are different. I’ve taken a decent amount of firearm instruction and used to teach kayaking. There really isn’t much for commercial whitewater instruction after beginner and early intermediate skills. There

There are definitely firearms training classes outside of my budget, but I’ve found a lot of good classes for $300ish a day.
If budget is a concern start with an Appleseed class.

 

[Pinchecharlie]

That class was 4 days and 1000 is much less than 4k. That was a joint venture with a we outfitter and bold medicine thing. Your right though it was a pre requisite to a woofer they where offering. Have you ever run the upper wind? It’s a hoot but a little spooky lol. Just so it’s apples to apples. You from Idaho? Just was surprised by the weirdness of it . I would have thought it was more grass roots but it seems more specialized. That same company offers a 7 day on the middle fork with guided food for less than a weekend in big timber. Ever been to big timber? lol! Doesn’t matter. The hunting shooting world has a very diverse and different tax bracketed group. I suppose it’s the same as a tube on the Boise and a run at n.f.payette. I bought my first kayak in 1984 and iam still a shitty kayaker. Took a swim in the lochsa last year that was very interesting. lol! It’ll be fine. Just allways try to appease the unknown faces of the internet. Part of the problem . Start off good then argue shit with people. Sad old guy who’s on forums instead of doing real shit. lol. Think I’ve beat this dead horse to another death. Ever hunt bear? Well do a early selway to get to them . Went last year but no luck. Great way to get to some deep dark Idaho.

 

[35WhelenAI]

I don't see the direction this discussion is going? You still have a flinch with a 270 that has a brake and arguing about white water rafting as some type of parallel pertinence to shooting. Can't wait to see how this pans out.

 

[goalie]

I don't see the direction this discussion is going? You still have a flinch with a 270 that has a brake and arguing about white water rafting as some type of parallel pertinence to shooting. Can't wait to see how this pans out.

The only thing this thread is missing is paragraphs.....