New to Quilts, need advice

[cody covey]

Your not bat shit crazy when your one if the baddest mofos on the planet my friend. Ask TAK, he knows what I'm saying. When you do as much backyard testing as he, there is no need for questions on how your hypotheses is reached. 86F is rough but not being able tell strangers on the internet about it, so much rougher.

 

[Take-a-knee]

Thanks for that lucid nugget of wisdom Cody. Much appreciated.

 

[luke moffat]

Im not even sure what's happening anymore.... I'm not wearing a down hood and jacket at 40 degrees when using a 20 degree quilt, and I wouldn't use a quilt below zero. Basically nothing else matters.

That's about all I've got from this thread.

I wouldn't go that far. I know people that use down hoods to extend the warmth ratings of their quilts and they carry them only cause their puffy jackets generally don't have them on them cause they want the lightest puffy jacket on the market and the hooded ones weigh more, but don't try to talk them into a hooded puffy. They would rather go this route than just go 10 to 20 degree warmer bags, which is an economical option.

I however am not in such a position and would rather carry a quilt with few oz more of insulation and be corrected rated than rely on the down hood. Sure I had my hooded puffy with me if I need it, but I haven't found the need to use the hood on my puffy with my 20 degree quilt in the upper teens yet. I'd rather plan to be correctly bagged, or over quilted, by taking a bag/quilt that will keep me warm as cold as I expect to see then have my puffy as a bail out if I get cold than go into it planning on wearing a hood to make a lighter "less warm" quilt work. Certainly neither way is right but rather two ways to get to the same end. TAK does have valid points and I appreciate his comments for the most part. Personally I don't care if you pack a down hood or not, I was just stating what works for me. If that works for someone then great. Ultimately it doesn't matter much at the end of the day.

 

[cody covey]

No man, thank you for your stiff grasp on reality and being the definition of a back country legend.

 

[Clarktar]

Subscribed!

 

[BroodBuster]

At -30* I'm getting a motel room and watching football.

 

[Weekender]

At -30* I'm getting a motel room and watching football.

^^^^ What he said ^^^^

 

[Mike7]

I usually take what Luke M. says as gospel, but I don't fully agree with his hoodless puffy/quilt assertions. As a matter of fact Luke, I think you would like really like a separate hood.

Adavatages:
1) Hoodless puffy is much more comfortable to hunt in...who hunts with their hood on?...hearing and peripheral vision are impeded by a hood.
2) A down or apex insulation hood weighs nothing and can be used with a quilt or for glassing, but stays in the pack the rest of the time when you don't need it. So it is not in your way at the back of your neck, or out getting wet and filled with pine needles while you are still hunting.
3) A hood is much more efficient and warm than any combination of hats that I have ever tried for sleeping in, when the temp is below 25 degrees. Unlike a mummy bag, a quilt with use of a separte hood can be used with or without your puffy allowing for ultimate comfort at many temperature ranges, and allow unencumbered rolling back and forth with no heat loss or getting tangled up.

I know, everyone wants there own separate hood & hoodless puffy now.

 

[luke moffat]

Like I said everyone has their preference and uses. I have yet to wear a hood while "hunting" if you mean on a stalk cause I don't stalk generally in a puffy at all cause I get too hot. So it doesn't matter what puffy I have hooded/hood less while hunting as I am not wearing it. While glassing or hanging out in camp I am quite often wearing a puffy with the hood up. Seems most times I want a puffy I want the hood too. I have often had hood less puffy jackets that left me wanting for a hood. I have yet to think "man if this puffy didn't have a hood it would be great." Just different strokes....no right or wrong way at all. If you like having a separate hood them by all means go for it.

 

[SHTF]

 

[dotman]

Kifaru has everyone covered with a removable hood

 

[lintond]

Ok now that this has settled down a bit I'm interested in what make & brand of quilt you would recommend? What type of foot box do you prefer?

 

[dotman]

I have only tried the EE Revelation and really like it. I like that I can unhook the footbox and have an actual rectangle quilt. The Enigma has a sewn in footbox so you can't change it up as much. The shock cord chinch and snap together footbox on the Revelation works very well.

 

[ChrisS]

I have a hammock gear burrow 20 and with the snap footbox and cinch cord. I haven't had any issues with a draft through the footbox and I like that I can unsnap it and use the quilt like a quilt. I stay at a hunting cabin as well and I like that I can bring one bag/quilt and use it for bivys as well as at base camp when sleeping on a real bed. You can't really do that with a sewn-in footbox. Also, the wife has found my quilt and steals it when she's watching TV during the winter and gets cold. So you might have to buy two.

 

[Take-a-knee]

Kifaru has everyone covered with a removable hood

Got mine.

 

[kpk]

I believe (if remembering correctly) that dotman recommended an EE to me awhile back. I looked into them and they are made about half an hour from my house. I sent them a couple messages and the guy is great to talk to. We BS'd for awhile both being locals, they'll get my business soon. They seem to make a great product from everything I've read and seem to be equally good people.