New Titanium Hot Tent Stove

[Silas_Norris]

Hi everyone!
I post in the hunting forums most of the time but wanted to get some honest feedback from people in this group.

While I cannot share a lot of info, I am working on a new prototype for a hot stove (ultralight and titanium). This will be a brand new concept and different from the current stoves on the market.

I value other peoples opinions and would love to have some feedback from members here on what things they value (and in what order) when considering a hot stove for their trips.

Below is a list of priorities that I hear people talk about. The list below is not in a particular order but I would love to hear what items you personally would look for in a ultralight titanium hot stove. You can reply with something not on the list or simply say (1, 7, and 9 are the most important to me).

When designing a new stove, there are several items that can be hard to "hit" from the list below so my goal is to focus hard on what people might consider the most important items.

In a few weeks I hope to have a finished prototype and patent and can share the design and working prototype with everyone!

1. Ease of set up - As easy/fast or faster than most stoves on the market and less small parts etc
2. Price - (at or below comparable stoves)
3. Packability (maybe not lighter but easier and less bulky to pack)
4. Lightweight - Having a lighter weight stove than the current ultralight stoves is important to me
5. Larger fire box - Usually means larger pieces of wood and longer burn times in most cases.
6. Cooking (ability to easily cook meat or warm/boil water with ease)
7. Safety - Better built in safety features (stove pipe connecting better to fire box, the ability to stake down the stove to the ground etc.
8. Visibility - Having ceramic glass to be able to see the fire when it is all closed up is important to me
9. Fire starting and fire efficiency - Easy large doors
10. Durability - I will add a few ounces of weight to have something that is thicker and more durable (likely meaning thicker titanium walls which adds more weight)
11. Visibility -
12. Fire control - Having a good flue system with good air control built into the door. Being able to choke down the fire and open up different vents to allow more air control.

 

[Team4LongGun]

If you can nail #1,4 and 5 your onto something.

 

[Silas_Norris]

If you can nail #1,4 and 5 your onto something.

I think you will like what I am making I will be sure to PM you in a few weeks and see what you think

 

[Bubblehide]

#8 adds weight and something that can break and disable the stove. It will also soot up and become less and less visible. I get the visual value people place on seeing the fire, but perhaps it's just me, I don't see it being worth the squeeze, so to speak.

I prefer a stove to not have parts to lose, drop... I like what Peax has done. If you can improve on that, you'll have a product that people here will want.

 

[Silas_Norris]

#8 adds weight and something that can break and disable the stove. It will also soot up and become less and less visible. I get the visual value people place on seeing the fire, but perhaps it's just me, I don't see it being worth the squeeze, so to speak.

I prefer a stove to not have parts to lose, drop... I like what Peax has done. If you can improve on that, you'll have a product that people here will want.

I agree. I liked the idea of seeing the fire so purchased a ceramic glass door on my seek stove. It sooted up in the first use (which was harder than you would think to clean off) and you essentially couldnt see the fire within minites of use anyways. I was also suprised at just how much weight it added.

Now i simply keep the door open when I want to mess with or see the fire. Its less efficient but sometimes when im just hanging in the tent on a rainy day the efficiency and slow burn is not as important so leaving the door open is nice.

 

[Wrench]

The winnerwell that shaves a bit of weight is about all i would ask for.....maybe make it longer to allow longer wood requiring less cuts to get heat.

I tried a lot of stoves and having everything contained and functional is paramount to me. The kifaru had too many parts and the lite was too flimsy. Most of the others were a conglomeration of those two.

 

[MtnsWinAgain]

4,5,9,12 all address “will I bring it and will it work well”. Larger diameter pipe seems to help with burn and draw. No need for viewing a heat source. I’ve ran Peax, SO box and SO u turn. So far Peax >SO box >SO U-turn. Ultralight is important, but a couple oz don’t matter quite as much late season, late season hunts just have more weight for cold safety. I have to choke on those words a little as I’m a light is right bc hunter, but it’s true! The couple lbs to bring a stove and stay out longer and dry gear has been huge.

 

[displacedtexan]

I agree. I liked the idea of seeing the fire so purchased a ceramic glass door on my seek stove. It sooted up in the first use (which was harder than you would think to clean off) and you essentially couldnt see the fire within minites of use anyways. I was also suprised at just how much weight it added.

Now i simply keep the door open when I want to mess with or see the fire. Its less efficient but sometimes when im just hanging in the tent on a rainy day the efficiency and slow burn is not as important so leaving the door open is nice.

So glass door is or isn't important?

 

[Pacific_Fork]

Yea I’ll echo scratching the glass door off the list.

Are you making it cylinder or square? I like my cylinder stove for packability but it’s a little tricky to set up.

 

[Silas_Norris]

So glass door is or isn't important?

I want to know what you think is important. To me, the glass ceramic is heavy and I worry about it breaking etc. I love the idea of seeing the fire but you can always leave the door open which I usually do in my current stoves and that works fine. The glass gets soot on it so fast and the view is obstructed within minutes. That said, The ceramaic glass is a no go for me. It also adds a couple ounces. I do not think this is important but my goal is to learn what others find valuable

 

[Silas_Norris]

Yea I’ll echo scratching the glass door off the list.

Are you making it cylinder or square? I like my cylinder stove for packability but it’s a little tricky to set up.

I assume you are running the first lite stove? Yeah that is hard to set up and it is using .005" titanium walls and you can dent that in the wind almost! Its lightweight but not the best option in my opinion

Seek uses a .015" side wall grade 1 titanium and that is must more rigid and wont dent as easily

 

[Pacific_Fork]

I assume you are running the first lite stove? Yeah that is hard to set up and it is using .005" titanium walls and you can dent that in the wind almost! Its lightweight but not the best option in my opinion

Seek uses a .015" side wall grade 1 titanium and that is must more rigid and wont dent as easily

No, I have the Liteoutdoors stove. No dent issues, that bother me at least.

 

[Austin Kaufman]

I’d say some of the big ones for me are 1, 5, 10, and 12. I’ve ran a seek outside large for a long time and it’s just a pain to setup sometimes, not as bad as the U-turn they offer though. The larger fire box is great, then you can spend less time sizing or processing wood. Being a bit heavier and durable would be fine. If I’m running a stove I’m not worried about the little bit of weight because being able to stay dry and hunt longer outweighs a little added weight. I’m excited to see what you do for fire control because it’s nice to choke it down and get it to burn as long as possible into the night. I’m also interested in your spark arrestor system. I hunt some areas that can get very dry and on top of the spark arrestor by the fire box on my seek I’ve added a spark arrestor cap on the stove pipe to give myself a piece of mind in those areas or dry years. I think the other big thing I didn’t mention above would be number 2. If you can beat others on price and bring that to market I think you will definitely succeed. I actually picked up one of the soomloom stoves off amazon back when they were like $130 to try. It weighs a tad more than my seek but the ease of setup, sliding the sides together makes me grab for it over the seek now days.


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[Lawnboi]

Let’s see it and I’ll tell you what I’d change.

Iv burnt a few stoves until they were almost impossible to put together again.

 

[LoH]

1, 6
and the right balance between 4 & 10

 

[Middle_Ridge]

I think when I tend to leave my stove behind, it's most often because:

#4 - Too heavy

and

#1 - Too long to set up and take down + the fiddle factor & mess.

 

[AKM]

3, 4, 5, 12
Fly out hunting w a teepee tent: size and weight drive the choice. Cold weather being able to feed and control the fire for a longer burn time.

 

[cbuck516]

Hi everyone!
I post in the hunting forums most of the time but wanted to get some honest feedback from people in this group.

While I cannot share a lot of info, I am working on a new prototype for a hot stove (ultralight and titanium). This will be a brand new concept and different from the current stoves on the market.

I value other peoples opinions and would love to have some feedback from members here on what things they value (and in what order) when considering a hot stove for their trips.

Below is a list of priorities that I hear people talk about. The list below is not in a particular order but I would love to hear what items you personally would look for in a ultralight titanium hot stove. You can reply with something not on the list or simply say (1, 7, and 9 are the most important to me).

When designing a new stove, there are several items that can be hard to "hit" from the list below so my goal is to focus hard on what people might consider the most important items.

In a few weeks I hope to have a finished prototype and patent and can share the design and working prototype with everyone!

1. Ease of set up - As easy/fast or faster than most stoves on the market and less small parts etc
2. Price - (at or below comparable stoves)
3. Packability (maybe not lighter but easier and less bulky to pack)
4. Lightweight - Having a lighter weight stove than the current ultralight stoves is important to me
5. Larger fire box - Usually means larger pieces of wood and longer burn times in most cases.
6. Cooking (ability to easily cook meat or warm/boil water with ease)
7. Safety - Better built in safety features (stove pipe connecting better to fire box, the ability to stake down the stove to the ground etc.
8. Visibility - Having ceramic glass to be able to see the fire when it is all closed up is important to me
9. Fire starting and fire efficiency - Easy large doors
10. Durability - I will add a few ounces of weight to have something that is thicker and more durable (likely meaning thicker titanium walls which adds more weight)
11. Visibility -
12. Fire control - Having a good flue system with good air control built into the door. Being able to choke down the fire and open up different vents to allow more air control.

1. Very important, especially in harsh conditions.
2. Least important. If I wanted cheap I would just buy junk from China
3. Medium importance. For a backpacking stove I would says it’s pretty important, but I’ve actually never backpacked with my titanium stove. Maybe I will in 2026, but it depends on what tags I draw. I’m actually looking at getting something bigger, heavier, and more durable for my truck camping needs.
4. Medium important. Again, for a backpacking stove weight is pretty important but after using an ultralight stove, on a handful of late season trips, I wish it was more durable and easier to set up so I would gladly pay a weight penalty for that. More than weight, pack size IS important to me. There are some insanely awesome titanium stoves from four dogs, but they don’t pack down very small so backpacking with them is a no go for me. The ultralight stoves (like seek outside) are definitely not something that will outlive me and not something that I even expect to last a decade if used on a regular basis.
5. Very important. Having a stove that is large enough to reduce the number of times I have to refill it in the night is critical. Additionally, having the door opening be large enough that filling the stove fully is not a huge chore. The door opening on mine is so small that I end up fighting to fill it completely full and I’ve had a few times where I have almost knocked the stove over because it was so hard to get wood through the door.
6. For a backpacking stove I wouldn’t previously have cared about cooking on it, because I would have my Jetboil with me anyways, but I’ve recently started cooking and boiling water on the stove and really enjoy how well that works and how it simplifies the number of things I have to pack. Im not sure I would want to compromise compromise more critical features to add some sort of cooking feature. Setting a kettle on top of the stove works very well on the two stoves I’ve used recently. Don’t overthink it.
7. Important. Having legs that you trust to not tip over is a plus. I like how some of the expeditioning stoves have snow legs where you can run a stick through them to add stability.
8. Not important at all.
9. Very important. Door size is critical for me as well as efficiency of the stove itself. I really like the stove designs like the four dog that have a folded lip around the door opening to get a nice tight seal between the door and stove box. My ultralight stove doesn’t have this and the metal bends in and out which results in reduced control on the air intake draft.
10. Very important. I have a 40oz stove right now and this thing is so light and flimsy that I question how long it will really last me. I will be buying a beefier stove to use for my truck camping and reserve the ultralight only for when I am backpacking or goat packing.
11. Not important
12. Very important for long burn times. Needs good control of both intake and exhaust dampers as well as a design that limits smoke blowback and encourages secondary burn for increased efficiency.

I’m slept in my hot tent last night testing burn time with mulberry wood. The following picture is the remaining coal bed after a 4 hour burn with intake and exhaust dampers fully closed. Outside temp was 9F and inside tent was 62F at refill. I filled it twice through the night and I’m enjoying coffee by the fire now. Cheers!