New stone glacier pack?

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Just wanted to let you guys know that our guys got the product page up for the Terminus today. It is a pack I have been working on and using for over a year, specifically built for alpine hunts carrying boned meat. The goal was to build a 7000 cubic pack under 4 pounds that was load cell compatible, with the same load rating and geometry as our current frames. I will check back as I travel this weekend to answer any questions.
I would also like to personally thank those that have shared supportive comments the past few days. I greatly appreciate those who have faith in myself and our brand.

Terminus 7000

The goal was to create the lightest, strongest 7000 cubic inch alpine hunting pack for the sheep and goat hunter. The result is the new Terminus, weighing in at less than four pounds. By sewing the bag directly to the frame and incorporating an internal load cell, we built this alpine workhorse...

www.stoneglacier.com

Thanks Kurt for the update and congrats on the business success!
The pack looks absolutely fantastic. I know that I will be ordering one for sure. Quick question though, is the waist belt removable? I normally have to have a custom Small/Medium modified belt sewn up for my 29" waist. Wondering how this belt is set up and if the fit may be any different than the other frames.

 

[Kurt]

Ben,
Yes, the waist belt is removable. The entire suspension uses the same materials and patterning as the Evo so we can make a small/medium as you have mentioned. Fit on the back will be the same as the Evo.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

I'll be ordering on Monday and will get a report out to all you guys on the 'slide later this winter.

 

[mtwarden]

you definitely wouldn't build an internal frame pack for hauling hunting loads, this is an external frame sewn directly to the frame (external frame)

doing so saves some weight- you don't need all the straps/buckles to pull the bag from the frame, simply load the meat in the bag (load cell)

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

I'll be ordering on Monday and will get a report out to all you guys on the 'slide later this winter.

I was struggling coming up with a reason not to order immediately, thanks! My wallet hopes you hate it

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

I was struggling coming up with a reason not to order immediately, thanks! My wallet hopes you hate it

Not likely : ) I love ultralight, simple, bags. My normal hunting pack is a Krux Evo with a Sky 5900. For lightweight adventures, where I am not going to be packing meat out, I use a Hyperlite Mountain Gear Porter 4400. I have a feeling that the new Terminus 7000 will replace the HMG even for those type of trips.

 

[ljalberta]

You guys are a bunch of A-holes for making this pack. I thought I was finally satisfied with my pack setups...

On a more serious note, one question for you Kurt, are there any plans to update the hip belt buckle setup? My biggest gripe with my SG packs are that the tensioners for the hip belts are on the centre clips as opposed to attached to the edge of the padded hip-belt. I think when Kifaru made this change it immediately improved the ease with which I could tighten or loosen my hip-belt to the perfect tension, without sacrificing any loss of tension.

PS. Congratulations on the sale to Vista. I can only imagine the growth that is now in store for SG with Vista backing the business.

 

[Kostrize]

I was cruising on Facebook and in the stone glacier group one of the people who works for SG was talking about new stuff they are coming out with like a quilt and some other stuff.

He mentioned they are making an internal frame pack that is around 7000ci and has a meat shelf that is going to weigh under 5lbs.

Has anybody else heard about this?

Anybody have info on the quilt? Their sleeping bags are highly regarded, I’m interested to see what they came up with

 

[Kurt]

Ljalberta,
Yes, we upgraded all belts with. 2” tension lock buckle instead of the 2” trislide as you have suggested. The Terminus also has the new updated buckle you are referencing.

Kostrize
We will have the new Chilkoot 32 degree quilt available in the March time frame. The quilt uses the same 850+ Hyper dry down and Pertex fabric as our current sleeping bags. Closed foot box approximately 14” deep with differential cut, we also used our sleeping bag differential patterning to give shape up through the shoulders to prevent compressing down around the shoulders, it is not typical flat quilt style patterning. It has 4 back detachable elastic straps to adjust the back opening width against the sleeping pad, with two of the straps having additional strap to go around the sleeping pad to keep it centered on the pad. It has a magnetic closure elastic draft collar to seal around the neck in cold conditions. Weight is 22 ounces. The primary focus for this is a lighter option in summer and early season where the 15 degree bag is simply too much. I used it most of the season up though early November this year, in the colder conditions I would layer with my Grumman insulation pieces as needed. However, I would highly suggest a high R rated pad like the Thermarest Xtherm as I have found the downfall to any quilt is the heat loss from the ground as your body is in direct contact with the pad.

 

[schmalzy]

2 pound+ saving from the sky guide is certainly tempting.


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[schmalzy]

Just wanted to let you guys know that our guys got the product page up for the Terminus today. It is a pack I have been working on and using for over a year, specifically built for alpine hunts carrying boned meat. The goal was to build a 7000 cubic pack under 4 pounds that was load cell compatible, with the same load rating and geometry as our current frames. I will check back as I travel this weekend to answer any questions.
I would also like to personally thank those that have shared supportive comments the past few days. I greatly appreciate those who have faith in myself and our brand.

Terminus 7000

The goal was to create the lightest, strongest 7000 cubic inch alpine hunting pack for the sheep and goat hunter. The result is the new Terminus, weighing in at less than four pounds. By sewing the bag directly to the frame and incorporating an internal load cell, we built this alpine workhorse...

www.stoneglacier.com

Kurt,

How’s the compression? Similar to others to run this as a day pack if needed?


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[Trial153]

Some guys love the Drama. I will worry about SG or any other place when they give me time to worry. Till then it’s nothing but speculation and bulls shit.

This pack looks really cool. Wish I had it on my goat hunt this year as I could have used some shaved weight.

On side note I got my first SG pack a last week, the newest version of the Sky Archer. I got to say so far I am impressed. Going to put it trough the paces the next month running hounds, hare, little cats and yotes. Nothing beats the hell out of gear l like following the dogs in north woods.

 

[Kurt]

Schmalzy,
The Terminus compresses in the same way as our other packs, but it is a bit cleaner as rhe bag is attached to the frame. It can also be converted to what we call bivy mode like our other multi-day packs. The lid can be removed and a storm flap is sewn into the top front of the bag that will wrap over the top of the frame to close off the top of the bag. This will turn the pack into approximately 4300 cubic inches with a 30” side zip to access the main bag. Removing the lid drop will drop approximately 4 ounces to a total weight of 3 pounds 11 ounces.

 

[schmalzy]

Schmalzy,
The Terminus compresses in the same way as our other packs, but it is a bit cleaner as rhe bag is attached to the frame. It can also be converted to what we call bivy mode like our other multi-day packs. The lid can be removed and a storm flap is sewn into the top front of the bag that will wrap over the top of the frame to close off the top of the bag. This will turn the pack into approximately 4300 cubic inches with a 30” side zip to access the main bag. Removing the lid drop will drop approximately 4 ounces to a total weight of 3 pounds 11 ounces.

Thanks Kurt. Think I’ll give this a try.

As far as the load cell goes, is there anyway to secure/contain the meat in that pocket so it doesn’t all slip to the bottom of the pack? I realize there’s only so much that can be done, just curious how it worked out during R&D.


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[AK Troutbum]

We will have the new Chilkoot 32 degree quilt available in the March time frame. The quilt uses the same 850+ Hyper dry down and Pertex fabric as our current sleeping bags. Closed foot box approximately 14” deep with differential cut, we also used our sleeping bag differential patterning to give shape up through the shoulders to prevent compressing down around the shoulders, it is not typical flat quilt style patterning. It has 4 back detachable elastic straps to adjust the back opening width against the sleeping pad, with two of the straps having additional strap to go around the sleeping pad to keep it centered on the pad. It has a magnetic closure elastic draft collar to seal around the neck in cold conditions. Weight is 22 ounces. The primary focus for this is a lighter option in summer and early season where the 15 degree bag is simply too much. I used it most of the season up though early November this year, in the colder conditions I would layer with my Grumman insulation pieces as needed. However, I would highly suggest a high R rated pad like the Thermarest Xtherm as I have found the downfall to any quilt is the heat loss from the ground as your body is in direct contact with the pad.

Wow, that sounds pretty spot on! Are they going to be offered in different sizes, ie., lengths and widths, and how wide is the foot box? That differential cut is a key feature IMO, maybe not so much with the 32° rated quilt, but if you guys decide to start producing colder rated quilts like this, the differential cut becomes a much bigger factor.


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[schmalzy]

I'll be ordering on Monday and will get a report out to all you guys on the 'slide later this winter.

I just pulled the trigger on one.


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[thinhorn_AK]

I just pulled the trigger on one.


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I’m so torn. I have a guide 7900 that works well for me and is really only like 1lb and a few ox heavier than the terminus. I wonder how much inside volume you lose by using the built in meat shelf rather than the standard models which sandwich meat between the frame and bag.

 

[schmalzy]

I’m so torn. I have a guide 7900 that works well for me and is really only like 1lb and a few ox heavier than the terminus. I wonder how much inside volume you lose by using the built in meat shelf rather than the standard models which sandwich meat between the frame and bag.

I have an xcurve and same bag so for me the weight savings is about 2lbs, fairly significant.

I’m curious to see how the load cell shakes out and if there’s anyway to prevent all the meat from sinking to the bottom.

Looks super streamlined which is definitely appealing to me.

Should be here by Wednesday or so.


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[B_Reynolds_AK]

I’m so torn. I have a guide 7900 that works well for me and is really only like 1lb and a few ox heavier than the terminus. I wonder how much inside volume you lose by using the built in meat shelf rather than the standard models which sandwich meat between the frame and bag.

I’d imagine you’d lose quite a bit of volume compared to your 7900 with external load shelf. If your already utilizing significant volume and packing large loads of meat, I can see the Sky Guide being a little more suited.
For myself, I can see using this as an ultralight expedition pack, meaning long distances on foot with minimal gear.
My Sky 5900 works for 10 day hunts this way, but the load shelf can be a bit awkward to use at times and also does bump out my loaded pack a bit further from my body than I’d like, atleast in technical terrain. A 7000 cu. in. pack that weighs less than my 5900 seems like it would be perfectly suited for these type of trips, yet still have enough room for meat, atleast from sheep/goat sized animals.

I’ll most likely keep my Krux Evo/5900 for training hikes and also for shorter hunts where larger game are the target species, ie. Moose, Caribou etc., where it’s easier to haul quarters or large amounts of meat in the external load shelf.


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[B_Reynolds_AK]

I have an xcurve and same bag so for me the weight savings is about 2lbs, fairly significant.

I’m curious to see how the load cell shakes out and if there’s anyway to prevent all the meat from sinking to the bottom.

Looks super streamlined which is definitely appealing to me.

Should be here by Wednesday or so.


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If the load cell is fairly slim and you utilize the SG meat bag, I’m betting that it holds its shape fairly well.


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