New Mexico’s super lotto

[WRO]

Is e plus the best system- no
Is e plus system being exploited- yes

From an administrative stand point maybe the e plus system is the lower cost alternative which would add value in the back end of the program. If new mexico is investing those cost savings into other aspects of it's department it theoretically would benefit all sportsmen.

Many perspectives and some less visible than others for sure.

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Its the best system in the west for allowing public access to private lands at no cost to the taxpayers.

 

[Gila]

You play the victim every time you post up anti-eplus threads.

I am a victim when people troll my threads!

What about the millions of acres of public it opens up in addition to private, with no monetary costs to hunters… you fail to always mention that. Number one best benefit to Unit wide is access across to land locked public.

Those elk are harvested on public lands. Say you drew a quality “Q” tag in a trophy unit for first rifle during the rut from the 6 percent non-res public draw. Say there are 20 tags total allocated for that hunt in the public draw. You go to the landowner list and find that there are 20 tags total allocated as unit wide tags for that GMU. You can bet there will be 40 hunters out there on that quality hunt.

You want a cash lease fine, find out the true cost of cash leasing all that acreage, and then introduce the cost raises to tags via legislation to get that done.

South Dakota raises the license fees to pay for their access to private lands programs. New Mexico has some room there to raise fees. I think selling preference points should be considered however more tags need to be allocated to the public draw for a preference point system to work. There is a rather high cost with administration of the eplus system that would go away. There is room for creative financing here.

How many hunters want to pay hundreds of dollars more for a tag, just to increase hunt codes by couple more Unit wide tags?

Would you rather pay an additional $250 for a non-resident tag or $25,000 dollars for a unit LO tag?

You just want the system cancel and have yet to supply a replacement program with feasibility costs to open up same amount of private and public land.

Actually there are already replacement programs on the table. You make it sound like I am the only one that wants these things. We are very organized, I can assure you.

It’s one thing to cancel something you disagree with but it’s another to actually do the homework for a mutually beneficial replacement plan that’s actually feasible

We have a broad range of support and resources from many different conservation organizations. We will not give in until we get our hunting back.

 

[Gila]

Its the best system in the west for allowing public access to private lands at no cost to the taxpayers.

Says who…how do you know?

Nothing in this world is for free. There is the cost of administration of the eplus program which is huge. The state is paying the landowners with elk the public owns and was paid for by the billions of excise tax dollars that hunters pay. Not to mention that most of the elk are harvested from public lands…those are the facts!

 

[cuerro viejo]

You make it sound like it’s 20 unit wide tags per hunt code, That’s Simply not the case, and you are doing so to gaslight. Be honest with how many tags it is PER hunt code. What’s the average?

I don’t care what someone pays to hunt if they didn’t draw a tag, it affects me financially none, but it did pay for un-restricted access to cross into and through private lands that land lock public, at zero cost out of pocket to me and all the other hunters driving down those roads.

I get it you are the official propaganda arm of xyz… allegedly well organized of course

If you put out real facts and instead of the one sided propaganda you might make the eplus system better but per your own admission that’s not your goal. By your own words will continue to gaslight to get it done.


SD doesn’t have a ton of land locked lock public…. 27 mil acres to 5 mil, substantial difference in size and an amount. Most of SD leases are for upland

 

[WRO]

Says who…how do you know?

Nothing in this world is for free. There is the cost of administration of the eplus program which is huge. The state is paying the landowners with elk the public owns and was paid for by the billions of excise tax dollars that hunters pay. Not to mention that most of the elk are harvested from public lands…those are the facts!

That’s a lot of word salad to say you never lettered in shit.

I’ve hunted OR/WA/MT/CO/ID/NM/UT/AZ in the last decade.

I shot bulls on both my NM tags in E-plus ground.

How much is the huge cost of administration vs the cost of the state paying LO’s directly as a lease?