New long range shooter

[Muledeerfanatic]

First thing you need is money
Second is lots of practice

 

[PC356]

What’s the twist rate on your Howa .223? Lose the Leupold, consider a SWFA 3-15.

 

[Castle Rock]

Sure, I do the same with kids and adults all the way out to 1000. Pulling the trigger without disturbing the rifle is pretty easy to learn, on a suitable mild recoiling rifle.

But, it is misleading to say even a 450 yard shot is easy. Your son doesn’t make the shot without your gear, knowledge and experience.

Yes, 450 is long range per my definition, because beyond MPBZ takes into account ballistics and environment, and it requires ranging to effectively hit.

Yep, anyone can pull a trigger if they are set up to do it, it is nonsense to think that it will happen like that in the bush

 

[Castle Rock]

Easy is relative, but within 15 minutes the other day I had my young teen son easily hitting an 8” gong at 450 yards 100% of the time. And he’d never shot half that far before. That’s getting into LR territory to me.

It’s an old debate. You aren’t wrong and I’m not wrong. We can still be friends.

We can always be friends (maybe?) but you get so much wrong
You came into this thread with a bad attitude trying to derail it, as you usually do, what are you trying to achieve?

 

[SDHNTR]

We can always be friends (maybe?) but you get so much wrong
You came into this thread with a bad attitude trying to derail it, as you usually do, what are you trying to achieve?

You could not have read me more wrong.

 

[TaperPin]

Budget?

 

[LeeMaster99]

Where is the happy medium between buying a rifle system that is capable of .75 MOA on a large enough group (10-20) versus getting something now and spending more on ammo and practice? If you’re practicing all of that with a 1.5 MOA system doesn’t it limit how good that practice is for you? Or rather what’s the point of practicing at distance if you know that will never be good enough for hunting at any distance?

 

[Castle Rock]

A 1.5 MOA system will never cost you a game animal
What you are supposed to be practicing is shooting under field conditions, not group shooting

 

[El_bosque]

Buy a 223 bolt gun, put it in a properly designed and well made stock, put a reliable scope in solid rings on it. Then go put several thousand rounds through it in different conditions, from different positions, at different ranges, and learn to read wind and call misses. Assuming you have proper mechanics and solid fundamentals already this will be the best thing you can do for the lowest price and lowest recoil to learn “long range.”

Signing up for a Shoot2Hunt class would also be a great idea to go with that.

Came here to comment, left with knowledge and a plan! Thanks!