New build. New scope options

[BCDJR]

Are you saying no advantage on wind and drop between mil and moa? From what I’ve seen your wind call is much simpler with mils and for shooting a 6.5cm(such as myself) I can use the “6.5cm hack”, I wouldn’t necessarily do it on game but it’s handy tip to know how to use.

To each his own. I like MOA for sighting in. If I am 1/2 off at 100 then it’s couple of clicks. When I dealt with my older European scopes it seemed I never could adjust as finely. I don’t dial wind and I assume you do the same I just hold. Once my ballistic app has the wind info I can see hold in moa and it’s transmitted to my range finder. So it’s really not with MOA or mils different in counting hash marks to push left or right depending on wind. Another option is to burn an elevation turret with yards on top of moa. Talk about fast! However of course with loads and your gun changing the yardage might not always work. I am just sold on the finer adjustments with MOA. I do not shoot in competition but I understand there is a long practice in using MIL and talking with your support team everyone uses same language. However if I am on the range with a buddy we both talk MOA and do calls. In the field hunting alone you need your data on your own so counting stadia lines or dialing up on a turret is only a matter of how close the hash marks are. So if I am missing a point let me know. I have heard all the mathematic discussions but I have an issue with that because environmental factors change. I don’t trust myself to simply guess at distances so I want data from my app when I input wind…my range finder can read elevation and pressure to give me a solution. If you are shooting a bunch on steel targets it might be acceptable but not on a live animal

 

[Formidilosus]

To each his own. I like MOA for sighting in. If I am 1/2 off at 100 then it’s couple of clicks. When I dealt with my older European scopes it seemed I never could adjust as finely. I don’t dial wind and I assume you do the same I just hold. Once my ballistic app has the wind info I can see hold in moa and it’s transmitted to my range finder. So it’s really not with MOA or mils different in counting hash marks to push left or right depending on wind. Another option is to burn an elevation turret with yards on top of moa. Talk about fast! However of course with loads and your gun changing the yardage might not always work. I am just sold on the finer adjustments with MOA. I do not shoot in competition but I understand there is a long practice in using MIL and talking with your support team everyone uses same language. However if I am on the range with a buddy we both talk MOA and do calls. In the field hunting alone you need your data on your own so counting stadia lines or dialing up on a turret is only a matter of how close the hash marks are. So if I am missing a point let me know

That .045 MOA max difference between .25 MOA and .1 mil sure is noticeable…

 

[abianca99]

That .045 MOA max difference between .25 MOA and .1 mil sure is noticeable…

Hahaaaa. I’m with you. The minor difference does not matter to me and has no influence on me one way or the other.

 

[abianca99]

I have a friend who is retired and shoots competitively full time all over the country as well as hunts all over. He is suggesting I go mils as well for reasons stated as well as communication if I get into competition shooting. With that said the Trijicon tenmile 3-18 looks like a great hunting scope. It’s durable, holds zero, tracks well, and light. I’m just not so sure about the reticle for hunting. I hunt a lot of different terrain. Many times in close quarters in heavy brush. That’s where the Revic seems to really shine. The reticle. I don’t understand why more companies don’t offer reticles in ffp that are more useful in close wooded areas. Input in the Trijicon reticle and the type of hunting I do is welcomed. Also, what about 1000 yard shooting with the Trijicon. Does that scope have enough power and adjustment for that?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I have a friend who is retired and shoots competitively full time all over the country as well as hunts all over. He is suggesting I go mils as well for reasons stated as well as communication if I get into competition shooting. With that said the Trijicon tenmile 3-18 looks like a great hunting scope. It’s durable, holds zero, tracks well, and light. I’m just not so sure about the reticle for hunting. I hunt a lot of different terrain. Many times in close quarters in heavy brush. That’s where the Revic seems to really shine. The reticle. I don’t understand why more companies don’t offer reticles in ffp that are more useful in close wooded areas. Input in the Trijicon reticle and the type of hunting I do is welcomed. Also, what about 1000 yard shooting with the Trijicon. Does that scope have enough power and adjustment for that?

The Trijicon 3-18x can handle 1000 yards without issue.

 

[Shortschaf]

I had a MIL Tenmile and hated the tree reticle. I found the Maven rs1.2 better in every way except weight so I sold the Tenmile

If you don't mind the reticle, Tenmile is good value at $1100. Maven is too. Neither is worth their MSRP, but each should go on sale here some time end of year.

No experience with Revic. Agree looks like a nice reticle. If you haven't owned a high mag scope before you will probably always wonder if you will like it.

For hunting specific scopes I got tired of size and weight of 20x+ optics and found I prefer the 3-15ish stuff after seeing no drawbacks out to 1000+ yards

 

[abianca99]

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Being Maven is so popular here this seems like a solid option as well with a good hunting reticle. But no illumination. I already have multiple scopes that max out at 15x so the maven rs1.2 is just not enough power for what I want in this build. Anyone using these maven mil reticles without illumination and seeing it fine on low power low light?

 

[huntnful]

I have a friend who is retired and shoots competitively full time all over the country as well as hunts all over. He is suggesting I go mils as well for reasons stated as well as communication if I get into competition shooting. With that said the Trijicon tenmile 3-18 looks like a great hunting scope. It’s durable, holds zero, tracks well, and light. I’m just not so sure about the reticle for hunting. I hunt a lot of different terrain. Many times in close quarters in heavy brush. That’s where the Revic seems to really shine. The reticle. I don’t understand why more companies don’t offer reticles in ffp that are more useful in close wooded areas. Input in the Trijicon reticle and the type of hunting I do is welcomed. Also, what about 1000 yard shooting with the Trijicon. Does that scope have enough power and adjustment for that?

I killed a bull at last light at 200 yards with the 3-18 Tenmile, without using illumination. Reticle is plenty bold for 99% of hunting scenarios IMO. And also shot it at 1000 yards on 15X no problem at all.

 

[abianca99]

I’ve also read somewhere that Revic is supposed to be coming out with a mil version of their scopes this year. Is there any validation to that comment?

 

[abianca99]

I killed a bull at last light at 200 yards with the 3-18 Tenmile, without using illumination. Reticle is plenty bold for 99% of hunting scenarios IMO. And also shot it at 1000 yards on 15X no problem at all.

Congrats!

 

[huntnful]

Congrats!

Oh thanks. That was 2 years ago. I kill one every year. They’re pretty easy to kill, so I don’t consider it an accomplishment anymore hahaha. But they’re hard to pack out lol.

I currently shoot the 5-25X50 Tenmile HX.

But used the 3-18X44 Tenmile FFP mil for a while also. It was great hunting scope. I just went to the MOA 5-25X50 HX for simplified reticle.

Made zero difference switching from MOA to MIL, and then back to MOA again. I’m not much of a speed shooter when distance is involved though. Slow and methodical mostly. So none of the speed MIL tricks mattered to me at all. I did like the simple corrections though. Like 6.1 Mils, vs. 21.67 MOA hahaha.

 

[abianca99]

Oh thanks. That was 2 years ago. I kill one every year. They’re pretty easy to kill, so I don’t consider it an accomplishment anymore hahaha. But they’re hard to pack out lol.

I currently shoot the 5-25X50 Tenmile HX.

But used the 3-18X44 Tenmile FFP mil for a while also. It was great hunting scope. I just went to the MOA 5-25X50 HX for simplified reticle.

Made zero difference switching from MOA to MIL, and then back to MOA again. I’m not much of a speed shooter when distance is involved though. Slow and methodical mostly. So none of the speed MIL tricks mattered to me at all. I did like the simple corrections though. Like 6.1 Mils, vs. 21.67 MOA hahaha.

I’d be all over the 5-25 model as a top contender but I only see it in sfp. Unless I’m missing something they offer

 

[swavescatter]

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Being Maven is so popular here this seems like a solid option as well with a good hunting reticle. But no illumination. I already have multiple scopes that max out at 15x so the maven rs1.2 is just not enough power for what I want in this build. Anyone using these maven mil reticles without illumination and seeing it fine on low power low light?

Only the RS1.2 from Maven has passed drop tests for durability. In fact it's probably the MOST drop tested scope out there as half of Rokslide was out dropping theirs for a while.

My understanding is that no other Maven scope is assembled/designed for ruggedness similar to the RS1.2. There's this scope, Trijicons, Nightforce, SWFA and maybe a couple others.

 

[huntnful]

I’d be all over the 5-25 model as a top contender but I only see it in sfp. Unless I’m missing something they offer

They have it in FFP in MOA.

 

[huntnful]

I’d be all over the 5-25 model as a top contender but I only see it in sfp. Unless I’m missing something they offer

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I have this scope on all 3 of my hunting rifles.

 

[abianca99]

Only the RS1.2 from Maven has passed drop tests for durability. In fact it's probably the MOST drop tested scope out there as half of Rokslide was out dropping theirs for a while.

My understanding is that no other Maven scope is assembled/designed for ruggedness similar to the RS1.2. There's this scope, Trijicons, Nightforce, SWFA and maybe a couple others.

I didn’t know that about Maven. That’s been one of my attractions to the Revic. It passed the drop test here. Not scientific but definitely sorts out the weak links for sure

 

[cal30_sniper]

I’d be all over the 5-25 model as a top contender but I only see it in sfp. Unless I’m missing something they offer

This is the equivalent FFP MRAD model: https://www.eurooptic.com/trijicon-...range-w-red-green-mrad-precision-tree-34mm-ma

 

[huntnful]

This is the equivalent FFP MRAD model: https://www.eurooptic.com/trijicon-...range-w-red-green-mrad-precision-tree-34mm-ma

That is a MUCH bigger and heavier optic than the 30mm tube 5-25X50 scope. I’ve owned a couple of the 4.5-30X56’s as well. It a great scope as well! Just bigger.

 

[cal30_sniper]

That is a MUCH bigger and heavier optic than the 30mm tube 5-25X50 scope. I’ve owned a couple of the 4.5-30X56’s as well. It a great scope as well! Just bigger.

Yeah, that’s definitely true. 34mm tube and bigger objective.

 

[TimberHunter]

I don’t shoot comps so I’m not having to communicate with anyone shooting mils. I’ve been shooting moa my entire life. All of my hunting partners shoot moa and communicate as such. I understand mils and have shot others rifles set up with mils. I would have no issues switching to it. It just doesn’t make any sense for what I am building this rifle for. The post isn’t about mils vs moa. If I was setting a rifle up for comps it would be mils no question. But that’s not what I’m doing.

If the quick drop feature of Mils isn’t on your radar, you’re missing out big time


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