I’m definitely on the Form Train, but that is geared for lead core bullets. So if your looking at monolithics what are the best options? It appears very limited.
That's not true. There are high BC copper bullets.The bc on them all sucks ass so you don’t have that to keep the speed or energy going down range so keep that in mind.
Yes, and that is the case for lead as well. I'd keep any copper over 2000fps. But with those high BC's thats 98% of people's hunting range - 500 and in.Had to go check out badlands. Looks like some do have BC's comparable to lead--example their 140gr 6.5mm advertises a G1 BC of .670 compared to a 143gr ELDx at .625. That'll help, but regardless doesnt it make more sense with copper to look at impact velocity and compare max range before dropping below a threshold to expand reliably? (i.e. 2000fps is commonly used)
I believe people recommend LRX a lot because it is supposed to reliably expand at a lower velocity than many other solids, not so much because the BC is exceptionally high.
What was the range and approx impact velocity on the elk?Using a PH2 6.5 prc I took an elk with 127 lrx last year. The bull didn’t know it was hit. It worked and he tipped over but I was not sure I hit him due to no reaction. Cleaning him I saw the bullet did not open up. Because of this I switched to a 300wsm this year. In the meantime I switched to the Cayuga 122 solids for antelope in my prc. Took one and was impressed. I took my 6.5 prc as a backup for elk this year and ended up switching to it due to some issues with my 300. Took an elk with the 122 Cayuga and she maybe made it 20 yards.
After that shot a mule deer during second rifle and he made it maybe 10 yards.
My conclusion is the Cayugas are the real deal, when you hit an animal with it they know they have been hit, and cleaning them the damage is intense.
Moving forward I’m looking to pick up a element in 6.5 prc and mount a SWFA 3-9 on it.
Agree and other hand, recoil is completely relevant unless OP plans to run a can or brake. Every cartridge mentioned above and beyond the 6.5 PRC (excluding the .308) comes with incrementally more recoil. All things being equal, shooters will be more accurate with a gun that recoils less. This has been proven so many times there is no need to dig up statistics.Drop is pretty irrelevant in the days of rangefinders.
just not sure that high-er BC than the above is really needed unless the 2k fps rule isnt the whole story or you are planning to shoot past those ranges?
You must be hunting a LOT higher than I do.Most of the low-bc copper in my strelok app is still over 2k fps at 500 yards. My 7mm08 with factory ttsx 120's is still over 2000fps at almost 500 yards and with nosler etip 140's it's good past 525, 30-06 150 ttsx's at 600 yds, 6.5mb federal copper 120's almost 600 yds, etc. I dont have a need for any of this past 500 yds so no experience with terminal performance there, just not sure that high-er BC than the above is really needed unless the 2k fps rule isnt the whole story or you are planning to shoot past those ranges?
What was the range and approx impact velocity on the elk?
And reliable scopes that dial ...Drop is pretty irrelevant in the days of rangefinders.