New arrow build for 2026 - Muley & Whitetail

[180splitg3]

One of my concerns is that if I use a collar, I want it to fit tight around the shaft. My RIP TKOs have an OD of 0.266. If I go with a 0.263 collar - how much sanding would be required? Seems like it wouldn't be much but it's hard for me to grasp how much 0.003 is

 

[realunlucky]

I used the ethics archery collars (ss steel collar aluminum insert) on my TKOs. I wanted my arrows to weigh the same (keep same arrow speed) but bring more wieght up front and have less wind drift. Components in general add a bunch of cost to any arrow. I glue all my components in with the victory glue. If you heat it up you can remove them. Note it sets up fast so ready when you put the pieces together.

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[ResearchinStuff]

Iron will c on rip tko 300 spine. The gap is imperceptible

 

[180splitg3]

I used the ethics archery collars (ss steel collar aluminum insert) on my TKOs. I wanted my arrows to weigh the same (keep same arrow speed) but bring more wieght up front and have less wind drift. Components in general add a bunch of cost to any arrow. I glue all my components in with the victory glue. If you heat it up you can remove them. Note it sets up fast so ready when you put the pieces together.

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do you remember what size you went with (or what spine TKO you have) and how much the insert and collar weighed? I am trying to stay around 440-445 TAW with a 125 grain point, lighted nock and wrap. I am left with about 25 grains to play with for the insert and collar to stay in that range. I have already put way too much thought into this - lol

 

[realunlucky]

do you remember what size you went with (or what spine TKO you have) and how much the insert and collar weighed? I am trying to stay around 440-445 TAW with a 125 grain point, lighted nock and wrap. I am left with about 25 grains to play with for the insert and collar to stay in that range. I have already put way too much thought into this - lol

I needed 65 grains. I'm shooting 300 spline arrows so .267 end cap which weights 40 grains.

You'll likely need titanium to stay within 25 grains. Ethics does have an aluminum end cap that might offer an cheaper alternative not sure the wieght difference.


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[Mighty Mouse]

What are your thoughts on hit insert material durability? I have 16 grain aluminum hit inserts laying around. I have also been looking at the 15 grain titanium inserts from IW and also the 25 grain stainless inserts from IW. Then there are also collars of various weights. I plan to use a 125 grain broadhead moving forward.

I don't know if I want to use collars or not. Obviously this determines my total arrow weight. I have killed a lot of game with my axis arrows without collars and never had an issue - but I have had virtually no hard impacts on game to know if they would have bent (I currently have brass 50 grain). Any thoughts on collars? I have seen you post quite a bit about archery gear and you seem to know your stuff so I wanted to ask you. The arrows I have had break have been when I have hit rebar and/or wood framing around my targets. But the collars will cost me $50 - which would cover the cost of 2-3 new arrows as well (I could buy a few new arrows if needed if I splinter the front of one instead of putting money into the collars)...

I personally don't think a collar is necessary, but if you wanted something cheap to provide a little external reinforcement, you could use a Top Hat protector ring as a miniature collar.