My Rifle / Shooting Journey

[Gstew1930]

I think a good example of this is this rifle. If I had not gone through everything I would say this rifle is dead nuts reliable Remington clone. It was sighted in off a bench & has about 900 down the barrel. 100% of them came from a tripod after the initial sight in. I dont beleive it has ever even been set in the dirt. No rapid bolt manipulation, never been in the rain. As babied as a rifle can be. It has a very specific use case

 

[mlevimadden]

There are significantly more malfunctions when you compare a r700 to a Tikka. Competitions like PRS and NRL don’t count because those rifles are often babied. The biggest issue I’ve encountered is the trigger failures on the Remington 700 clones. I’ve lost two really good big game animals because of this—fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

I would argue the NRL matches are at least a little harder on r700s. Occurring in more "field" conditions than PRS and having to keep your bolt open 95% of the day led to problems in the match I shot last year. The match I shot had high winds and blowing dust but it was dry and never below freezing.

I shot in a squad with 5 other shooters. I had a tikka, 2 guys shot factory r700s, and 3 guys had pure precision r700 customs. 2 of the shooters with pure precision rifles had issues.

Pure #1 had feeding issues regularly and light primer strikes on day 1. He tuned his mag feed lips, removed, wiped down, and lubed his firing pin assembly and wiped out his action and didn't have any more major ignition issues the rest of the match.
Pure #2 had a slam fire on the second morning. He was being filmed during it, his finger was no where near the trigger, and he wasn't running the bolt hard. The RO zeroed him on the stage but at least didn't disqualify him. Luckily he was aimed at a target during bolt close.

All 3 Pures were using TT Diamond triggers.

I also had a failure when my Scythe instantaneously separated halfway through a stage, but I can't blame that on the Tikka.

 

[2buffalo]

I think the MRC might be the go to rifle. Im just being a cheap MF right now

Haven't been able to order one anyway. Both UM and MRC will not say when they will be available.

 

[Gstew1930]

Haven't been able to order one anyway. Both UM and MRC will not say when they will be available.

I'm sure they are just trying to get caught up. i believe they will be worth the wait. Plus it gives me time to quit being a cheap ass

 

[TNHighlands]

@Formidilosus @Ryan Avery has anyone run the classes successfully with the sig cross platform? Or, in general, what's been your experience with those?

 

[SDHNTR]

Doesn’t all of that count? If one system is more prone to user error or manufacturing/qc problems, doesn’t all of that still count in the grand scheme?

Well, yeah, I suppose but what I meant is some one-off mishap with QC, not a design flaw. That happens to all things mechanical from time to time, even Tikkas. A rare QC oversight is different from an inherent design flaw.

 

[Wprinkle]

Great write up man!! Its funny how how my entire rifle setups now cost less than my actions used too. I have a "custom" 300 MAX Bat Vesper action, Hells canyon barrel, sitting in a manners. When I got home from class I wanted to run a mag through it just to see... whelp misfed on the second round, just like the other 700 someone had at class. I was so proud of it too.. Babied it, every round I loaded was PERFECT!! Now I treat the tikkas like tools that I have an endless supply of and they function with perfection.

 

[gbflyer]

Most ppl run a gun like it’s fragile, most ppl don’t even use their magazine during practice or testing. When you are being taught to be an on demand kill anything shooter and shoot till it’s dead lots of problems come out of the cracks. A malfunction is anything keeping the gun from going bang AND hitting the desired target on demand within seconds. Missfeeds, jams, stuck cases, triggers loss of zero ect…. Are all problems that keep one from doing the job you are there to do.

Were there these kind of problems with the issued M40 variants?


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[T_Widdy]

Right, but I haven’t seen any of that that wasn’t either user error or a manufacturing/qc flaw.

Well, yeah, I suppose but what I meant is some one-off mishap with QC, not a design flaw. That happens to all things mechanical from time to time, even Tikkas. A rare QC oversight is different from an inherent design flaw.

The biggest thing for me was the bolt binding with several 700 pattern actions. If the bolt didn’t cycle perfectly or I had any sort of feeding issues my brain came off the task and trying to clear a malfunction became a rodeo when under pressure. To me most 700 action bolt clearance tolerances are a design flaw. I don’t know how people accept or even run the seekins actions with the bolt feel I have felt from them when cycling over a loaded magazine.

 

[T_Widdy]

Were there these kind of problems with the issued M40 variants?


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Don’t know, have only ran clones

 

[gbflyer]

Don’t know, have only ran clones

I see. I thought maybe you had used them with you life depending on it from your post about killing on demand and under pressure etc.

 

[T_Widdy]

I see. I thought maybe you had used them with you life depending on it from your post about killing on demand and under pressure etc.

Just passionate about shooting. There are way too many ppl in society today that think guns are toys.. swinging them around all Willy Nilly. If you have a firearm in your possession I think you should know what they were designed for and how to use it

 

[Gstew1930]

Just passionate about shooting. There are way too many ppl in society today that think guns are toys.. swinging them around all Willy Nilly. If you have a firearm in your possession I think you should know what they were designed for and how to use it

Its funny you mention that. I was thinking about this the other day. Do you think there was just some dumb MF named Willy Nilly? Everyone made fun of him & called eachother Willy Nilly for doing something stupid & it just caught on? Random thought for the day

 

[SDHNTR]

The biggest thing for me was the bolt binding with several 700 pattern actions. If the bolt didn’t cycle perfectly or I had any sort of feeding issues my brain came off the task and trying to clear a malfunction became a rodeo when under pressure. To me most 700 action bolt clearance tolerances are a design flaw. I don’t know how people accept or even run the seekins actions with the bolt feel I have felt from them when cycling over a loaded magazine.

Ok, I guess I could see bolt binding on tighter toleranced clones. But is that really a big problem? It’s like a 2 nanosecond hindrance to correct. I’ve seen the issue multiple times, but not enough to matter. Never seen it cause a jam or legit malfunction. Just a minor inconvenience.

 

[rbutcher1234]

Apart from the PRS crowd i don't think a ton of people actually feed their rifle through the magazine. I for sure didn't. Everything was at the bench single fed

That’s weird homie, people actually single feed guns?

 

[Gstew1930]

That’s weird homie, people actually single feed guns?

Next time you go to the range watch any dude with an ammo box with reloaded ammo. 95% of the time they single feed

 

[T_Widdy]

Its funny you mention that. I was thinking about this the other day. Do you think there was just some dumb MF named Willy Nilly? Everyone made fun of him & called eachother Willy Nilly for doing something stupid & it just caught on? Random thought for the day

haha I know it would suck to have that name!

 

[SDHNTR]

That’s weird homie, people actually single feed guns?

Yeah, that’s ridiculous. Hunting rifles have magazines for a reason.