MSR Switch - new stove release

[Dobermann]

Has anyone seen the new MSR Switch yet?

This video is from 6 months ago, but I don't think I've seen a post about it on here.

Product page here: https://cascadedesigns.com/products/switch-stove-system

And to be fair, I just saw it on a post by Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear on Backpacking Light: https://backpackinglight.com/forums...msr-switch-and-new-hx-mug-from-fire-maple-g2/

MSR dropped their overview video just two weeks ago:

I only found one YouTube user video:

(This was from a very quick search; even so, it looks like they didn't take Jetboils "bomb the influencers" approach of the Stash from a couple of years ago, which seemed to backfire ...)

At a very brief glance, the hemispherical pot bottom seems promising. But the pot alone is far heavier than most HX posts, as is the burner. It doesn't look as windproof as the Reactor, but would be much heavier than the current experiments with so-called "Superstoves" - HX pots and lightweight wind-resistant burners such as the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe or the Soto Windmaster.

(Some of that discussion in this thread: https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/ul-fuel-efficient-cook-system.211835/page-15#post-3997634, which contains current tests, data, and more.)

Thoughts? Real-world experiences?

 

[Tman24]

Here’s a head to head with the wind burner.

Switch didn’t do good. 5:15 minutes to boil 350ml water

Go to the 5:30 mark of the video

 

[Dobermann]

Here’s a head to head with the wind burner.

Switch didn’t do good. 5:15 minutes to boil 350ml water

Go to the 5:30 mark of the video

Thanks! Good to know, although hard to pull too much from just one boil in one video. I'm guessing we'll see more of those kinds of video - and more data - as these get out int the wild. But at their estimate of 10-15 km/hr winds (6-9 mph), I wonder how that compares with other non-HX systems?

Another trick is that with some of the key sources of test data (linked in the thread above) focus more on multiple boils in controlled conditions, and use grams of fuel used as the metric, not minutes to boil ... would be great to see some like-for-like comparisons.

Thanks again!