Moveable Sight, thoughts?

[OR Archer]

20-60

 

[dmjojump]

I'm going with the 3 pin mbg ascent. Pins are set out to 50, I have had no complaints, hopefully have the same results this fall.

 

[5MilesBack]

Having never used a slider before, let me ask a question. It would seem that if you use a single pin and set it up at a single distance (let's say 20 or 30) right in the middle of the guard, that everything past that distance you're having to lower it to shoot. So from your starting point you're already lowering the entire housing closer to your shelf and possible fletching contact. To shoot even 80, that guard is now much lower than when you started, especially because you started with your pin directly in the middle of the guard. Similarly with a 3 or 5 pin guard, anything past your lowest pin distance you're moving the entire guard from the start. But with a 7 pin guard, you're already out to 80 without moving anything closer to the shelf.

Wouldn't it be better in this setup than a single pin for max distance?

 

[Jtelarkin08]

Your shooting a really slow bow or a really low peep if you can't get past 100 yards moving the housing. My bow shoots 270 and I can get 120 out of it. Plus your housing is already lower with that 8 pin so it's not that much of a difference really.

 

[dangerousD]

Your shooting a really slow bow or a really low peep if you can't get past 100 yards moving the housing. My bow shoots 270 and I can get 120 out of it. Plus your housing is already lower with that 8 pin so it's not that much of a difference really.

A lot of that is also determined by your peep height based on your anchor point. The higher your peep, the higher your sight housing and ability to get those longer ranges before the housing gets too low and makes fletching contact.

 

[5MilesBack]

Your shooting a really slow bow or a really low peep if you can't get past 100 yards moving the housing.

I would imagine.......but does anybody have an answer to my question? I would think the whole purpose of the moveable sight is to maximize distance with having a pin to actually shoot with.

 

[Jtelarkin08]

I would imagine.......but does anybody have an answer to my question? I would think the whole purpose of the moveable sight is to maximize distance with having a pin to actually shoot with.

I did. Your starting point of the multi pin sight will be closer to the shelf than the single pin. The only difference will be the distance from the center of your housing on a single pin to where the bottom pin on your multi slider is at your bottomed out distance. Your 80 yard pin is going to be in the same place no matter what sight you use. Say your using a 4 pin slider. Your sight will always be set on 50 yards. So to move it to 80 your moving it 30 yards. Where as a single pin you have to move it all the way form 20 to 80. But the pins will be in the same spot

 

[muledhunter]

I would check out the trophy taker sight. Thats what I plan on using this year. Best of both worlds.

 

[Jtelarkin08]

I would check out the trophy taker sight. Thats what I plan on using this year. Best of both worlds.

I agree that thing looks sweet.> I wish i would have went with one of those for my new bow. But i went with another hogg father so that both my bows would be the same

 

[cuerro viejo]

I would imagine.......but does anybody have an answer to my question? I would think the whole purpose of the moveable sight is to maximize distance with having a pin to actually shoot with.

You pins for a give distance are the same verticall regardless of sight type. My slider maxes out before fletching contact. With that said most 7pin sights have a larger bell housing then 1-3 pin sights.

But yes you could possibly get fletching contact on a multi pinned slider at range, with a slow large arrow diameter and tall vane set up

 

[5MilesBack]

But yes you could possibly get fletching contact on a multi pinned slider at range, with a slow large arrow diameter and tall vane set up

Yes, you can absolutely get fletching contact. However, I would have to put a single pin small guard sight on the bow and measure the distances from the bottom of the small guard set at 80 yards to the shelf, versus the bottom of my large guard which is already set at 80 yards without moving it at all. I'm thinking that because the single pin is in the middle of the guard that the entire guard could be lower when set at 80 (i.e. closer to the shelf) than my large guard set at 80. My 80 yard pin in my large guard is only .50" from the bottom of the guard, while the center of my guard is 1.25". The small guard will be different measurements, but am still interested in seeing the actual differences between the two, and where each would max out.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Yes, you can absolutely get fletching contact. However, I would have to put a single pin small guard sight on the bow and measure the distances from the bottom of the small guard set at 80 yards to the shelf, versus the bottom of my large guard which is already set at 80 yards without moving it at all. I'm thinking that because the single pin is in the middle of the guard that the entire guard could be lower when set at 80 (i.e. closer to the shelf) than my large guard set at 80. My 80 yard pin in my large guard is only .50" from the bottom of the guard, while the center of my guard is 1.25". The small guard will be different measurements, but am still interested in seeing the actual differences between the two, and where each would max out.

I'd be shocked if you had contact at 80. 120 not so much.

One thing you didn't consider is most sights (atleast my CBE) has three mounting locations. So technically I could have all three of my pin very low in the sight housing just like your 80 yard pin

 

[RosinBag]

5 Mile, to your question, you thought is correct. A single pin in either the large or small housing will give you less travel downward for the longer shots. The reasoning is the single pins sit in the middle of the housing, where you normally try and run your 40 - 50 yard pin. If you have a fast bow or a high peep or you arrow sits below the Berger button hole it wouldn't matter much. You can take rough measurements to determine where a single pin can get you, but that is why I prefer the multi pin. The pin I use as a slider sits lower in the housing, so I get more out of it.