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Lil-Rokslider
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This one should get some people fired up. I was recently chatting with a buddy that’s going on a hunt in Montana and he said he had to pick up an orange vest and hat to meet their blaze orange requirements.
That surprised me, Montana is historically a state pretty proud of their personal freedoms and self sufficiency and it REQUIRES orange?
Now i don’t have anything against orange or anyone that chooses to wear it, more power to ya.
I own plenty, i usually wear it upland bird hunting or in more dynamic close range moving target activities.
But big game hunting in Idaho in oregon, i never wear orange, most don’t, some do. No one seems to care. And I’ve never felt unsafe.
So i did some digging and man…. People are pretty serious about their orange. Lots of open threats, talk of “signing your own death warrant” if you don’t wear it, being an IDIOT! A cry baby, don’t hunt here then, natural selection will weed these people out, it’s not hard to do, ect. Like people not wearing orange are actively being shot in mass amounts every year. people even turn in people not wearing orange. like some how it affects their personal safety?
Anyways, what i didn’t see anyone talking about was statistics, is orange really that effective? So i did some digging, looking specifically at Oregon, Idaho, and Montana. And what i found was there isn’t really a discernible difference. Most accidents are self inflicted, poor gun handling, or just plain stupid. I couldn’t really find any recent specific cases of mistaken identity. Although i did find a case in Oregon from 2017 where a hunter was sitting on a slope and a kid shot at his orange hat because he thought it was a clay pigeon.
Most examples i found were from the east coast mostly in flat thick wooded areas or bird hunts.
So this begs the question… is orange really necessary? If you believe it is why? And why do you feel like everyone needs to participate?
If you don’t think it’s necessary but you live in a state that requires it what do you do? Just not wear it? Seems like the fine in Montana is somewhere between 10-20 dollars. Cheaper than a vest and a hat.
Although i know this will get some people fired up my goal isn’t to create an argument or tell you you’re wrong. I am genuinely curious where all of the passion comes from and would like to genuinely hear your opinions and FACTS that have made you a strong supporter of orange. Please save the angry lectures, i understand the general idea behind wearing orange. Thanks guys!
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That surprised me, Montana is historically a state pretty proud of their personal freedoms and self sufficiency and it REQUIRES orange?
Now i don’t have anything against orange or anyone that chooses to wear it, more power to ya.
I own plenty, i usually wear it upland bird hunting or in more dynamic close range moving target activities.
But big game hunting in Idaho in oregon, i never wear orange, most don’t, some do. No one seems to care. And I’ve never felt unsafe.
So i did some digging and man…. People are pretty serious about their orange. Lots of open threats, talk of “signing your own death warrant” if you don’t wear it, being an IDIOT! A cry baby, don’t hunt here then, natural selection will weed these people out, it’s not hard to do, ect. Like people not wearing orange are actively being shot in mass amounts every year. people even turn in people not wearing orange. like some how it affects their personal safety?
Anyways, what i didn’t see anyone talking about was statistics, is orange really that effective? So i did some digging, looking specifically at Oregon, Idaho, and Montana. And what i found was there isn’t really a discernible difference. Most accidents are self inflicted, poor gun handling, or just plain stupid. I couldn’t really find any recent specific cases of mistaken identity. Although i did find a case in Oregon from 2017 where a hunter was sitting on a slope and a kid shot at his orange hat because he thought it was a clay pigeon.
Most examples i found were from the east coast mostly in flat thick wooded areas or bird hunts.
So this begs the question… is orange really necessary? If you believe it is why? And why do you feel like everyone needs to participate?
If you don’t think it’s necessary but you live in a state that requires it what do you do? Just not wear it? Seems like the fine in Montana is somewhere between 10-20 dollars. Cheaper than a vest and a hat.
Although i know this will get some people fired up my goal isn’t to create an argument or tell you you’re wrong. I am genuinely curious where all of the passion comes from and would like to genuinely hear your opinions and FACTS that have made you a strong supporter of orange. Please save the angry lectures, i understand the general idea behind wearing orange. Thanks guys!
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