Missing hunters in Colorado

[stalkingwolf]

Seems odd two guys go missing. Was there lightening in the area where both could have been struck?

 

[wytx]

There were storms I believe.

Do these devices send out a one last pin before batteries get too low, or something of the like ?
Sounds like a good feature if they could.

 

[mtnbound]

I am not posting this as a way to burn someone's spot, and if I get feedback to that effect, I will delete my post.

As a SAR responder, I am posting this to help give everyone an idea of why it's essential to have a working satellite communicator and a travel plan that is left in your vehicle or given to some other responsible person.

The Red ring is the 25% zone, meaning 25% of missing hunters are found within this ring. The Yellow ring represents the 50% zone, where 50% of missing hunters are found, and the Green ring represents the 75% zone, where 75% of missing hunters are found. SAR resources are limited, and trying to search these large areas is very difficult, especially when the SAR Managers do not have a direction of travel to go off. The 75% zone represents 28 square miles.

The missing hunters' Last GPS is back at the vehicle in the 25% zone, while all other previous GPS positions are just outside the 50% zone, with several clustered around #3.

 

[fmyth]

There were storms I believe.

Do these devices send out a one last pin before batteries get too low, or something of the like ?
Sounds like a good feature if they could.

You have to enable tracking on the device and go to the web portal and send email invitations to those who you'd like to be able to see your locations. Mine is set to send my location to the website every ten minutes. I've sent the email invite to my wife and kids. As long as my device is on they can see my location every 10 min. I've also set the device to send my current location with every text message I send from the device or the Garmin app on my phone.

 

[AZ8]

No new updates on that Reddit page, nor her FB page.

 

[mtnbound]

There were storms I believe.

Do these devices send out a one last pin before batteries get too low, or something of the like ?
Sounds like a good feature if they could.

If the unit is set to the default settings, it will send a location every 10 minutes. If the batteries die between this time frame, only the last location will be available.

 

[eddielasvegas]

@mtnbound

This is good stuff. Thank for posting it.

What are the sizes of each colored ring?


Eddie

 

[Steve300xcw]

What are the sizes of each colored ring?

 

[eddielasvegas]

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Thanks. Completely missed that info as it blends in well with the lines, plus I am not too bright.


Eddie

 

[mtnbound]

@mtnbound

This is good stuff. Thank for posting it.

What are the sizes of each colored ring?


Eddie

Red is 1.13 square miles or .6 miles in any direction from the last known point. Yellow is 5.3 square miles or 1.3 miles in any direction from the LKP. Green is 28 square miles or 3 miles in any direction from the LKP.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

I am not posting this as a way to burn someone's spot, and if I get feedback to that effect, I will delete my post.

As a SAR responder, I am posting this to help give everyone an idea of why it's essential to have a working satellite communicator and a travel plan that is left in your vehicle or given to some other responsible person.

The Red ring is the 25% zone, meaning 25% of missing hunters are found within this ring. The Yellow ring represents the 50% zone, where 50% of missing hunters are found, and the Green ring represents the 75% zone, where 75% of missing hunters are found. SAR resources are limited, and trying to search these large areas is very difficult, especially when the SAR Managers do not have a direction of travel to go off. The 75% zone represents 28 square miles.

The missing hunters' Last GPS is back at the vehicle in the 25% zone, while all other previous GPS positions are just outside the 50% zone, with several clustered around #3.
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So the points clearly weren't sending every 10 minutes so they were manually checking in. It would appear they were out and made it back to the truck and manually sent a check in. Hopefully they just lost the device and they pop out tomorrow.

 

[AZ8]

I’m not familiar with InReach or Zoleo, but can the company send out a ping to a specific registered device, like we can with a cell phone?

 

[mtnbound]

I’m not familiar with InReach or Zoleo, but can the company send out a ping to a specific registered device, like we can with a cell phone?

Yes, if it is on and in working condition. If the battery is dead or the device is broken, then no.

 

[Nine Banger]

I stumbled across a guy years ago that was lost. He had been wondering around for 6 hours. The guy was amazingly calm for being totally lost.

I'd probably play it cool too...

Hope they find these guys fast.

 

[mtnbound]

So the points clearly weren't sending every 10 minutes so they were manually checking in. It would appear they were out and made it back to the truck and manually sent a check in. Hopefully they just lost the device and they pop out tomorrow.

I agree the unit was not left on, looking at the time stamps of the positions, someone was just powering the unit up manually, which limits the safety purpose of having the device.

 

[mtnbound]

I'd probably play it cool too...

Hope they find these guys fast.

Unfortunately, the last position was sent at 1539 hours on 9-11, so fast is no longer an option.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

I stumbled across a guy years ago that was lost. He had been wondering around for 6 hours. The guy was amazingly calm for being totally lost.

I rescued a guy in a sinking kayak while in a land based shark fishing tournament. We could see him with binos repeatedly flipping his kayak over. No cell signal on that entire beach. Wife said babe you have to go get that guy. I hopped in my kayak and took off, by the time I reached him we were about 3 miles offshore and I mean I paddled my everlovin arse off to get there. Paddled up to him and said hey man you need help? He said Nah I'm probably OK I just need to get back in. Stunned for a second I just kinda looked. His kayak was about half full of water, he'd crawl into it and the water would rush to the back and the bow would shoot up into the air and dump him off the back. I said how about I tow you in? He very casually said yeah I guess that'd be OK. I hooked up to him and 2 hours later landed on the beach 18 miles East of where my camp was. Dude was toast and acted like it was no big deal, didn't even thank me.

 

[MuleDeerMike]

I was also thinking freak lightning strike.... Hope I'm wrong. Having regular check-ins for a couple days then going completely dark on comms for almost 5 days and zero sign of them is not good. I can't imagine anyone would do that to their fiance especially in this day and age. And it doesn't take 5 days to get the first load of meat a couple miles to the truck if they did get something down on Friday, especially a couple of younger guys in probably at least decent shape... Again, hoping I'm very wrong and they come walking out tonight.

 

[Soj51hopeful]

I am not posting this as a way to burn someone's spot, and if I get feedback to that effect, I will delete my post.

As a SAR responder, I am posting this to help give everyone an idea of why it's essential to have a working satellite communicator and a travel plan that is left in your vehicle or given to some other responsible person.

The Red ring is the 25% zone, meaning 25% of missing hunters are found within this ring. The Yellow ring represents the 50% zone, where 50% of missing hunters are found, and the Green ring represents the 75% zone, where 75% of missing hunters are found. SAR resources are limited, and trying to search these large areas is very difficult, especially when the SAR Managers do not have a direction of travel to go off. The 75% zone represents 28 square miles.

The missing hunters' Last GPS is back at the vehicle in the 25% zone, while all other previous GPS positions are just outside the 50% zone, with several clustered around #3.
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I’m not following the math here. Between the 3 zones you have 150%?

 

[HairyScandinavian]

I’m not following the math here. Between the 3 zones you have 150%?

I assumed they're inclusive, the 25% within the small zone would be incorporated into the 50% from the middle zone, and both into the 75% of the outer zone, with the final 25% being outside of that zone. So for example the 50% ring contains the 25% ringg.