Maven RS1.2 2.5-15x44 FFP with SHR-W MOA reticle Field Tested and Reviewed

[Elite]

Has anyone used the Arken epl 4-16 FFP? I currently have it and find the reticle brutal for hunting in close bush. Wondering how this reticle compares


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[Milron]

I purchased a RS 1.2 on Mavens recent sale due to all the hype. I'm fairly impressed with it. I still prefer my 4-16 x 42 ATACR but I like the maven reticle much better. Optically it compares really well to a lot of other FFP scopes I've tried in that price. Probably has the most useable reticle that I've found for low light work. However, the illumination is garbage. Can someone with this scope elaborate on what the illumination is supposed to look like on this scope? All the pics I see online show only a center illuminated dot. However, the one I received parts of the entire reticle are illuminating and lots of bleed thru. Its not very useable. Maybe I got a bad one? its the only one of these I've layed hands on and Maven provides no information whatsoever on what the reticle is supposed to look like when the illumation is on. I tried taking a picture but wasn't something I could capture in a phone camera.

 

[Shortschaf]

I purchased a RS 1.2 on Mavens recent sale due to all the hype. I'm fairly impressed with it. I still prefer my 4-16 x 42 ATACR but I like the maven reticle much better. Optically it compares really well to a lot of other FFP scopes I've tried in that price. Probably has the most useable reticle that I've found for low light work. However, the illumination is garbage. Can someone with this scope elaborate on what the illumination is supposed to look like on this scope? All the pics I see online show only a center illuminated dot. However, the one I received parts of the entire reticle are illuminating and lots of bleed thru. Its not very useable. Maybe I got a bad one? its the only one of these I've layed hands on and Maven provides no information whatsoever on what the reticle is supposed to look like when the illumation is on. I tried taking a picture but wasn't something I could capture in a phone camera.

It is supposed to be dull. To help eyes see a fine aiming point in dark conditions

It is not supposed to function as a reddot on a bright sunny day.

 

[Milron]

thats what I was expecting, I wasn't expecting a red dot. But the question is should it only be the center dot that is illuminated?

The illumination in the one I received is bleeding thru across the reticle subtensions somewhat even on the lowest setting. Almost like there are multiple "dots" across the reticle. I'm just trying to figure out if only the center dot is supposed to be illuminated or if they have changed the scope and whole reticle is illuminated now? T....Just not sure If I got a bad scope or not

 

[RWT]

Only the dot should be illuminated. That being said there is a lot of bleed out based on how theirs is designed. The only illuminated dot I’ve seen that is just the dot with very little bleed is a S&B. Otherwise it’s just a product of the design.

 

[Milron]

Only the dot should be illuminated. That being said there is a lot of bleed out based on how theirs is designed. The only illuminated dot I’ve seen that is just the dot with very little bleed is a S&B. Otherwise it’s just a product of the design.

Thanks for the info. I'm guessing mine is out of spec then. I was expecting "some"bleed thru but this is pretty much useless as it. I guess its getting a trip back to WY

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Thanks for the info. I'm guessing mine is out of spec then. I was expecting "some"bleed thru but this is pretty much useless as it. I guess its getting a trip back to WY

It's pretty common from what I've gathered. Both of mine bleed on the higher illumination powers. Not sure sending it in will change anything.

 

[Milron]

It's pretty common from what I've gathered. Both of mine bleed on the higher illumination powers. Not sure sending it in will change anything.

I've got an RS.4 with a somewhat similar illumination, and it bleeds thru some as well but only on the higher illumination settings like you describe With this RS 1.2 its already bleeding thru with tiny little starburst by the 2nd to lowest setting, I just can't think the illumination can be this bad on a $1200 scope when i've seen garbage Chinese optics that work a lot better. I really hope there is something wrong with it because its so close to being a great scope in that price bracket but for the 2.5X to be useable to me the illumination needs to be useable. once It gets to 3X or 4x I really wouldn't need it.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

I've got an RS.4 with a somewhat similar illumination, and it bleeds thru some as well but only on the higher illumination settings like you describe With this RS 1.2 its already bleeding thru with tiny little starburst by the 2nd to lowest setting, I just can't think the illumination can be this bad on a $1200 scope when i've seen garbage Chinese optics that work a lot better. I really hope there is something wrong with it because its so close to being a great scope in that price bracket but for the 2.5X to be useable to me the illumination needs to be useable. once It gets to 3X or 4x I really wouldn't need it.

I haven't touched the illumination knob on either of mine since last year. I can take a look, refresh my memory a bit.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Here’s one scope. Looks fine in this light, but even on 3 in a darker room it bleeds into the rest of the reticle.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Here’s the other one. A little more bleed with this one, similar story in a darker room.

Had to replace the batteries to even check haha. I don’t use the illumination typically.

 

[SDHNTR]

The illumination just sucks. Send it back if it makes you feel better, but I’m not sure a replacement will be any better.

Maven got it 90% right with this scope, but damn they sure blew it on that last 10%.

 

[Milron]

Here’s the other one. A little more bleed with this one, similar story in a darker room.

Had to replace the batteries to even check haha. I don’t use the illumination typically.

Man thanks, that is very helpful! I least I know what it is supposed to look like now. Maven didn't provide much info when I called today but in a round about way they kind of admitted the illumation onthis scope was pretty poor. I typcailly don't use illumination much but for application I was gonna use this scope for I would really like to have it.

Guess I'll have to think about whether or not to keep it. Doesn't seem like sending it back for warranty evaluation is gonna get me anywhere.

 

[Milron]

The illumination just sucks. Send it back if it makes you feel better, but I’m not sure a replacement will be any better.

Maven got it 90% right with this scope, but damn they sure blew it on that last 10%.

Agreed, about 90% right would be correct. Really liking the reticle though, Might not use it on this rifle but can probably find a use for a well designed FFP scope that isn't 2K.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Man thanks, that is very helpful! I least I know what it is supposed to look like now. Maven didn't provide much info when I called today but in a round about way they kind of admitted the illumation onthis scope was pretty poor. I typcailly don't use illumination much but for application I was gonna use this scope for I would really like to have it.

Guess I'll have to think about whether or not to keep it. Doesn't seem like sending it back for warranty evaluation is gonna get me anywhere.

Yeah, just didn’t want you to waste time sending it back when you’re unlikely to get a different result.

 

[Beaches To Backroads]

So I've been researching scopes and am liking the Maven RS1.2. This will be my first quality scope and I am not that proficient yet. I always hear cheap gun good scope. But I also hear by cheap first because you will upgrade once proficient...... Would I be better off to buy something like a Leupold VX-Freedom 3-9x40mm and upgrade later?

It will be going on a 1903 30-06. I will be on everything from rolling grassy hills with oak and scrub brush, to high Sierra mountains of eastern California, to hopefully places like POW Island and mainland Alaska. California really limits my ammo choices and with punch power and bullet drop I'm really only looking at a max of 400yds.

I like what I read about the Maven. .

 

[Te Hopo]

So I've been researching scopes and am liking the Maven RS1.2. This will be my first quality scope and I am not that proficient yet. I always hear cheap gun good scope. But I also hear by cheap first because you will upgrade once proficient...... Would I be better off to buy something like a Leupold VX-Freedom 3-9x40mm and upgrade later?

It will be going on a 1903 30-06. I will be on everything from rolling grassy hills with oak and scrub brush, to high Sierra mountains of eastern California, to hopefully places like POW Island and mainland Alaska. California really limits my ammo choices and with punch power and bullet drop I'm really only looking at a max of 400yds.

I like what I read about the Maven. .

Take a look through the Leupold Freedom scopes and then look through even the VX3HD leupolds, the freedoms are cheap garbage not even worth chucking on a 22 imo

 

[Physical_Wind954]

Take a look through the Leupold Freedom scopes and then look through even the VX3HD leupolds, the freedoms are cheap garbage not even worth chucking on a 22 imo

I feel the same way about the VX3HD line failed me on a hunt. Hence why I'm reading through this thread.

 

[Packmansion]

So I've been researching scopes and am liking the Maven RS1.2. This will be my first quality scope and I am not that proficient yet. I always hear cheap gun good scope. But I also hear by cheap first because you will upgrade once proficient...... Would I be better off to buy something like a Leupold VX-Freedom 3-9x40mm and upgrade later?

It will be going on a 1903 30-06. I will be on everything from rolling grassy hills with oak and scrub brush, to high Sierra mountains of eastern California, to hopefully places like POW Island and mainland Alaska. California really limits my ammo choices and with punch power and bullet drop I'm really only looking at a max of 400yds.

I like what I read about the Maven. .

Not sure id put a $1200 scope with an ffp on a 1903

 

[Beaches To Backroads]

Not sure id put a $1200 scope with an ffp on a 1903

I am curious why not? What would you recommend?