Matching cartridge characteristics

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Anyone ever build a rifle or set to match one or more other rifles drop charts?
Just curious as I was looking around on some spare time and it looks like I can run a 200 eld-x with a bc of 626 at almost the exact same speed as my 140 with 620 bc from my saum. Seems like it would be handy to be able to grab one or the other and memorize drops. Could use one for deer other for elk ect
 
Yes. My 260 was originally built to match my 338Edge to 800 yards. Now I'm building a 300WM to sync up with a new 260 project.
 
Sam, out of curiosity, what barrel length and twist did you decide on for your 300wm to synced up with the 260? Also,.are you tailoring either/or for a specific bullet or load or will you build the rifles and then tailor the load?
 
Sam, out of curiosity, what barrel length and twist did you decide on for your 300wm to synced up with the 260? Also,.are you tailoring either/or for a specific bullet or load or will you build the rifles and then tailor the load?

I'll shoot whatever ends up shooting well in both barrels. Hopefully they will be good test beds, like my original 260. The 300 has a Broughton 1/10, finished at 27".
 
Anyone ever build a rifle or set to match one or more other rifles drop charts?

NO.
I build a rifle with an expectation of it performing with a specific bullet, or bullets. The best load is determined by systematic testing, not tailoring that load to "fit" the dope of another rifle.
 
If you found another cartridge with a bc within .005 and velocity within 50 fps running a totally different class of bullet weight would you object to having a second rifle setup?
 
If you found another cartridge with a bc within .005 and velocity within 50 fps running a totally different class of bullet weight would you object to having a second rifle setup?
"Object"?
Of course not, silly question.

In truth, the premise for building a rifle is actually the same.
We both have a bullet & MV in mind to build around. You want to "match" that dope to another rifle/load. Whereas, I build in expectation of getting the most performance out of said rifle/load. Difference being, if things just work out as planned, my options remain unbridled. Meanwhile, you've painted yourself into a corner, and quite possibly could have built a better mousetrap from the get-go...

Here's what I shoot, each built for a specific purpose. Will shed some more light on why I don't waste time trying to match ballistics. Simply because, it ain't gonna happen!
.172" 30gr @ 4100
.224" 75gr @ 3600
.243" 95gr @ 2770
.243" 105gr @ 3100
.264" 130gr @ 3200
.264" 140gr @ 3080
.284" 162gr @ 2970
.308" 215gr @ 3150

I can understand why you want to ballistically "match" rifles, just sayin' that is not a priority for consideration when I build a rifle. I like my stocks to "match", triggers to "match" and even reticles to "match" (or at least be similar). But I won't go so far as to try "matching" ballistics. In that regard, I "go big, or go home" and tend to gravitate toward the more capacious cartridges available for a given caliber. Also, the load always boils down to what the rifle tells me it likes best, not what will "match" something else I've got...


What happens when you load test & find an accuracy node for your new rifle that is +/- 30fps different than what you need to "match"?
What happens when you load test & learn that your barrel just doesn't want to shoot the bullet you had in mind???
What if there is a cartridge you could have built around that would have offered improved performance over what you settled on to "match"???

None of our motivations will ever be the same, and I don't expect them to be! Just offering up some alternative food for thought...
 
All good points, I'm pretty happy with my 6.5saum and have had awesome performance from all the bullets I've tried so far and my 30-06 is deadly accurate and makes a perfect backup gun for anything in California now I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea to get another rifle in the next step up in size and power and I'll have the bases covered
 
Easy to match BC and speed. My 260, 270, and 223 (75 Amax) pretty much share the same dope.
 
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