Marsupial Bino Harness Pistol Holster - Safety

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

I’m done hunting with people that wear this holster. Twice this year I’ve found myself staring down a barrel. Guy the other day said, “don’t worry the safety is on”

What a ridiculous design.

 

[Huntinmechanic]

I wore a kydex chest holster under my bino harness while in grizzly country this season. I carry a Glock though. Sounds like these yahoos you speak of were carrying Sigs! That would concern me to!

 

[Presswood_936]

Yeah I have one and have been thinking about getting something different , what do you prefer ?

 

[7mm-08]

I agreed with this sentiment regarding MG's bottom mount holster. Like you, I'm not going to tolerate anyone "lazering" me with a loaded firearm. If you are that concerned about hunting in dangerous bear country, carry the pistol pointed toward the ground. With an AD, you might shoot yourself in the leg but while you're bleeding out, you can take comfort you didn't take someone else's life.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Yeah I have one and have been thinking about getting something different , what do you prefer ?

Ivory on the pack belt.

I understand a bino harness holster is desired as you’re not always wearing the pack, but choosing an unsafe holster is not a good solution.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

I wore a kydex chest holster under my bino harness while in grizzly country this season. I carry a Glock though. Sounds like these yahoos you speak of were carrying Sigs! That would concern me to!

Not sure what the other guy was carrying, but the guy this weekend was carrying a 1911, round in the chamber, hammer cocked.

I don’t care what brand it is. I don’t want it pointed at me.

 

[nettereo16]

My buddy has one of these holsters, I’m less concerned with the direction it’s pointed than I am with with soft material and any gaps that could let a stick get into the trigger guard. Seems very dangerous when going through thick brush and Id think a proper fitting kydex holster would protect the trigger much better.

 

[def90]

Not a fan of cloth holsters, if anyone is going to use one at least double up with a kydex trigger holster.

I use a hillpeople gear chest pack with the integrated holster pocket and a kydex trigger guard which places the handgun horizontally across my chest but I hunt by myself. If I was with a group I would probably just run a kydex holster on my waist.

As for carrying the 1911 cocked and locked it’s actually probably one of the safest handguns to ever be produced and this is the recommended way to carry it. Even if the manual safety accidentally disengages you still need to depress the grip safety in order for it to fire. Searching the internet you really don’t find any evidence of these guns ever misfiring other than incidents of user error.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

As for carrying the 1911 cocked and locked it’s actually probably one of the safest handguns to ever be produced and this is the recommended way to carry it. Even if the manual safety accidentally disengages you still need to depress the grip safety in order for it to fire. Searching the internet you really don’t find any evidence of these guns ever misfiring other than incidents of user error.

That's all great, I still don't want it pointed at my head.

(Which I think you understand and you're just elaborating on the safety functions of the 1911 platform.)

 

[archp625]

Man, now you have me really thinking. I have that holster and its definitely gone now. Thanks for the heads up so an accident doesn't occur or I don't put someone in the same place as you!!

 

[Dos Perros]

Non-issue with a Glock.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Non-issue with a Glock.

Not really.

I'm surprised at how many people are okay with violating the first rule of firearm safety...Always Keep the Muzzle Pointed in a Safe Direction - A safe direction means a direction in which a bullet cannot possibly strike anyone.

I have this holster and will be throwing it away once I find it. Kinda sickens me to think of how many times I flagged my buddies when using it, though I found it uncomfortable and only used it a few times before buying the Ivory EMG.

 

[Dos Perros]

Not really.

I'm surprised at how many people are okay with violating the first rule of firearm safety...Always Keep the Muzzle Pointed in a Safe Direction - A safe direction means a direction in which a bullet cannot possibly strike anyone.

I have this holster and will be throwing it away once I find it. Kinda sickens me to think of how many times I flagged my buddies when using it, though I found it uncomfortable and only used it a few times before buying the Ivory EMG.

Do you conceal carry at all? I point this thing at my balls all the time. Thankfully the good Lord blessed me with a brain and critical thinking skills so I don't have to blindly apply rules to every aspect of my life--although that would be easier.

 

[IdahoBeav]

Appendix carry is crazy. I don't know why anyone does it. The Glock fanboys don't like to talk about the viral video showing a guy shoot himself in the groin with a G43 when he bends over to pick something up from the floor.

I like Glock and Sig. I carry a G20 on my pack and a P365 for EDC. I wish Glock made an EDC pistol that is as good as the 365, and I wish Sig made a 10mm that is as good as the G20.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Do you conceal carry at all? I point this thing at my balls all the time. Thankfully the good Lord blessed me with a brain and critical thinking skills so I don't have to blindly apply rules to every aspect of my life--although that would be easier.

Yes, pointing your own loaded pistol at yourself is one thing. Though I imagine you wouldn't point it at your head.

Having another person point a loaded pistol at me is a different thing. That's how I apply critical thinking to the situation.

If you're fine with other people pointing loaded pistols at you that's you're prerogative. I'm not okay with it.

 

[Bluumoon]

I wore a kydex chest holster under my bino harness while in grizzly country this season. I carry a Glock though. Sounds like these yahoos you speak of were carrying Sigs! That would concern me to!

Coming in and out of a holster with a Glock pointed in my direction doesn’t make me feel any better about it.

 

[Huntinmechanic]

Coming in and out of a holster with a Glock pointed in my direction doesn’t make me feel any better about it.

Absolutely! My comment was sarcasm. I like poking fun at Sig P320 owners (of which, I am). I edc a completely stock G19 though (minus upgraded sights). Myself and others in elk camp this year carried G20's in holsters attached to our bino harnesses. We hunted solo, but when back at camp or getting into a vehicle, actions were cleared and this was positively communicated. We discussed this prior to the hunt.

Regarding the unintentional discharge from the G43, has it been confirmed that the pistol was unmodified mechanically? I haven't seen the video or anything related to it. Seems that the Sig P320's involved in unintentional discharges are unmodified.

 

[Dos Perros]

Yes, pointing your own loaded pistol at yourself loaded is one thing. Though I imagine you wouldn't point it at your head.

Having another person point a loaded pistol at me is a different thing. That's how I apply critical thinking to the situation.

If you're fine with other people pointing loaded pistols at you that's you're prerogative. I'm not okay with it.

Pointing a pistol at my own head is not pertinent to the functional use of the pistol in and of itself. I similarly don't need to point out why I don't run myself over with my own truck.

I have a lot of familiarity with miniature mechanisms, and I have inspected the Glock safety design in detail. I've also discussed it in detail with engineers who make a living designing safety mechanisms. I, and they, believe the design is sound, and contains multiple redundancies, such that the risk is negligible. I won't make the same statement about other manufacturer's designs. Familiarity breeds comfort. Lack of understanding breeds fear.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Pointing a pistol at my own head is not pertinent to the functional use of the pistol in and of itself. I similarly don't need to point out why I don't run myself over with my own truck.

I have a lot of familiarity with miniature mechanisms, and I have inspected the Glock safety design in detail. I've also discussed it in detail with engineers who make a living designing safety mechanisms. I, and they, believe the design is sound, and contains multiple redundancies, such that the risk is negligible. I won't make the same statement about other manufacturer's designs. Familiarity breeds comfort. Lack of understanding breeds fear.

You wouldn’t point your own pistol at your head, but would you be fine with others doing so if it’s a glock?

Your truck analogy is flawed. A more accurate one would be jacking your truck up, maybe even putting jack stands under it, then positioning your head under the wheel. The risk may be low that the truck falls down and crushed your head but it’s unnecessary to put yourself in that position at all.

Similarly, if there are holster options that don’t inherently cause the wearer to point a loaded pistol at other people constantly, why accept that risk at all? Especially one that points at chest level and occasionally the head.

I understand your point but it doesn’t change my opinion.

If you were asked to sit down while someone else stood up and had a Glock in this holster pointed at your face you wouldn’t be uncomfortable about it?

 

[Bendejo]

The wings on the newer vortex bino harness have enough space to clip my 43x in Safariland als w paddle mount.
Thumb release, paddle contours to body, smaller frame pistol stays away from shouldered rifle/shotgun, and it unclips without molle madness to go on my pants if I'm not wearing the bino harness.
Love it.
ETA, something like a g20 would maybe more cumbersome in this location in regards to weight on the bino harness.