Made the switch to el

[Mtnman84]

I traded in the 15s and am going to shed the 10s and just carry one set of 12 els for tripod glassing and stalking hopefully I won’t be disappointed I love the 15s on a tripod amazing glass for big country mule deer. I love the field of view that the 12s offer at 300 ft. Is the outdoorsman tripod mount the best option? Thanks

 

[PLO5]

i think the 12's are the ultimate bino besides the price. They are much better then the 15's imo and i think the outdoorsman stud is the way to go also.

 

[TravKatQ]

Also pick up a pair of EL 12’s end of last year and they are absolutely hands down the best glass I’ve looked through. Also have the outdoorsmans setup on all my other optics as well as my friends and family...best setup for the tripod hands down


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[HookUp]

The 12's are in a league of their own for brightness and clarity. You made a great choice.

 

[marktole]

Another vote for the outdoorsman’s tripod mount. Light weight, fast set up, easy to use, what more could you ask for?

I run 10x50 EL’s myself, and don’t have trouble (usually) finding game, but have considered trying the 12x’s. However, I can’t bring myself to do it as I freehand mine quite a bit and think 12x’s would be a tad too much for me personally to do that effectively. I also think I would miss the larger field of view 10x’s provide. But either way...it’s EL glass...can’t go wrong there.

 

[Mtnman84]

I can’t wait to get out and scout I ran the ats 65 last season this year I picked up the prominar 88 also excited to try the new optics in the field

 

[Hatchet Jack]

Just as my desire to ditch the 15s and go with el 12s was starting to settle down, you go and do this make me rethink it. Hoping to get some time behind the ELs in the field this week.

 

[Mtnman84]

I can give you a report my buddy has 15s and we can compare the two side by side I hope I won’t be disappointed the 15s are great glass just a little heavy for backpack hunting

 

[Hatchet Jack]

I can give you a report my buddy has 15s and we can compare the two side by side I hope I won’t be disappointed the 15s are great glass just a little heavy for backpack hunting

yes please do, specifically if the quality of the image in the ELs makes up for the decrease in power when trying to pick up on small details

 

[pirogue]

As for the tripod adapter, I have a pair of Swarovski 10x42 EL and I've bought and used both the Swarovski brand adapter, and the Outdoorsman brand. The Swarovski may appear flimsy for the price, but it is designed like it should be and that is pivot in the center of the binos. You also do not have to spread the binos (to fit on the adapter), and then readjust for pupillary distance, which I have to do for the Outdoorsman. The Outdoorsmans are strong, maybe faster to install, remove from the tripod, but the designer must have never set and glassed for Coues very long. Since the attachment pin is put into the hinge mechanism on the objective lens end of the binos, that becomes the pivot point. This creates a longer radius to the eyecup, which creates more head,neck, and body lean to scan the same depth of field compared to an adapter that pivots in the center of the binos(longer radius equals greater circumference).

 

[Hatchet Jack]

As for the tripod adapter, I have a pair of Swarovski 10x42 EL and I've bought and used both the Swarovski brand adapter, and the Outdoorsman brand. The Swarovski may appear flimsy for the price, but it is designed like it should be and that is pivot in the center of the binos. You also do not have to spread the binos (to fit on the adapter), and then readjust for pupillary distance, which I have to do for the Outdoorsman. The Outdoorsmans are strong, maybe faster to install, remove from the tripod, but the designer must have never set and glassed for Coues very long. Since the attachment pin is put into the hinge mechanism on the objective lens end of the binos, that becomes the pivot point. This creates a longer radius to the eyecup, which creates more head,neck, and body lean to scan the same depth of field compared to an adapter that pivots in the center of the binos(longer radius equals greater circumference).

The designers of the outdoorsman pretty much wrote the book on glassing for coues.

 

[nrh6.7]

As for the tripod adapter, I have a pair of Swarovski 10x42 EL and I've bought and used both the Swarovski brand adapter, and the Outdoorsman brand. The Swarovski may appear flimsy for the price, but it is designed like it should be and that is pivot in the center of the binos. You also do not have to spread the binos (to fit on the adapter), and then readjust for pupillary distance, which I have to do for the Outdoorsman. The Outdoorsmans are strong, maybe faster to install, remove from the tripod, but the designer must have never set and glassed for Coues very long. Since the attachment pin is put into the hinge mechanism on the objective lens end of the binos, that becomes the pivot point. This creates a longer radius to the eyecup, which creates more head,neck, and body lean to scan the same depth of field compared to an adapter that pivots in the center of the binos(longer radius equals greater circumference).

You write the same paragraph every time the Outdoorsmans comes up. I think you might just be copying and pasting each time.

OP, don't listen to this post. He obviously has an axe to grind with them, but I will tell you that the Outdoorsmans know how to design a bino adapter! I have two pairs of EL's that were sent to AZ and I couldn't be happier.

 

[pirogue]

You write the same paragraph every time the Outdoorsmans comes up. I think you might just be copying and pasting each time.

OP, don't listen to this post. He obviously has an axe to grind with them, but I will tell you that the Outdoorsmans know how to design a bino adapter! I have two pairs of EL's that were sent to AZ and I couldn't be happier.

No axe to grind. I've bought and used both items and am qualified to compare. If it was properly designed, the support that attaches to the stud would be slanted, like a Z, instead of straight up vertical. This would make it pivot more to the middle. Sorry you don't have any common sense to understand, and need a picture drawn.

 

[wannakillabigbull]

Pirogue's issue with the outdoorsmans tripod adapter for the EL is valid. The adapter is set into the hinge on the objective end of the bino and isn't as ergonomic that way, but that's really an issue having to do with the binos not the adapter. Open bridge design binoculars have some different design limitations. The EL just isn't as easy of a binocular to use with post style binocular adapters.

However, insinuating that the Outdoorsmans should make a slanted adapter just for use with the EL is crazy. Almost every other binocular on the market has a threaded attachment near the center of the binos and thus there is no issue, so making a separate bino adapter that's slanted just for the ELs and a small handful of other open bridge binoculars makes no business sense whatsoever.

 

[nrh6.7]

No axe to grind. I've bought and used both items and am qualified to compare. If it was properly designed, the support that attaches to the stud would be slanted, like a Z, instead of straight up vertical. This would make it pivot more to the middle. Sorry you don't have any common sense to understand, and need a picture drawn.

Great idea, go get a pencil and paper and draw your version of how the adapter should be made. Email it over to Cody Nelson and tell him that Pirogue, party of 1, would like him to make another version to satisfy his (very) minor market. After he responds, come back here and talk about common sense again.

On a more civil note, wannakillabigbull is correct. They are dealing with the design of the EL, which gave them limited options for design. If it doesn't work for you, then dance with the one that brought you.

 

[WRO]

Great idea, go get a pencil and paper and draw your version of how the adapter should be made. Email it over to Cody Nelson and tell him that Pirogue, party of 1, would like him to make another version to satisfy his (very) minor market. After he responds, come back here and talk about common sense again.

On a more civil note, wannakillabigbull is correct. They are dealing with the design of the EL, which gave them limited options for design. If it doesn't work for you, then dance with the one that brought you.

He's not the only person to note this.

It's more common than you think.

 

[ljalberta]

Looking forward to your side by side comparison of the 12s and 15s.

 

[nrh6.7]

He's not the only person to note this.

It's more common than you think.

I believe you about that. I was just making a point with him.

 

[Ronb]

I actually read the first post in regards to this back in January. My EL‘s‘s were already in Arizona getting the stud installed. After receiving them and playing around the last month or so, I don’t think it’s that big a deal. Especially when you consider all the other things that it has going for it. As always, the heavier, bigger, and bulkier item often is more comfortable to use. But I’m gonna take the lightest, most compact set up I can get every time, especially when I’m carrying it on my back!


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[brocksw]

I did the same this year. Just got my binos back from theoutdoorsman for the stud install. Ill still run 10s when elk and goat hunting, but for mule deer i decided the 12s were the ticket.

I found a really good review by a birding forum that was done comparing the 15 slcs and the 12x el. the reviewers conclusion was the 12x El was the best high mag handheld binon to date.

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