Long Range School (midwest)

[JohnJohnson]

So if I am and it diverges from your opinion does that make it wrong?

This is a LONG RANGE HUNTING FORUM!

If you have a problem with long range hunting, don't post here. There are lots of other forums for you.

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Edit: I have received notice that the pinned post is not a rule, or something.

When someone can show me they can place every shot within a 6" circle at 600 yds on changing terrain and in changing weather conditions I will reconsider.

Edit: It's against the rules to respond sarcastically to this. I have removed this comment to reflect that.

 

[Team4LongGun]

All-this is a discussion forum. Differing opinions are welcome. Taking unnecessary shots at individuals for their opposing opinion is against the rules. Let's keep it civil and informative.

@JohnJohnson

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[Sandstrom]

JJ; "You're kind of just parroting stuff that's said every time the subject comes up anywhere."

So if I am and it diverges from your opinion does that make it wrong? When someone can show me they can place every shot within a 6" circle at 600 yds on changing terrain and in changing weather conditions I will reconsider.

“Every shot within a 6” circle at 600 yards” would win almost every midrange F Class competition or at least make it an X count race. I would venture to say that there is nobody that is capable of “every shot within a 6” circle at 600 yards in changing terrain and changing weather conditions”, especially with a hunting rifle.
Ryan

 

[SchwarzStock]

All-this is a discussion forum. Differing opinions are welcome. Taking unnecessary shots at individuals for their opposing opinion is against the rules. Let's keep it civil and informative.

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Ok, so what precision (moa) do you think is required to be responsibly shooting at game animals?

“Every shot within a 6” circle at 600 yards” would win almost every midrange F Class competition or at least make it an X count race. I would venture to say that there is nobody that is capable of “every shot within a 6” circle at 600 yards in changing terrain and changing weather conditions”, especially with a hunting rifle.
Ryan

So, is that too tight for shooting at live animals?

“Every shot within a 6” circle at 600 yards” would win almost every midrange F Class competition or at least make it an X count race. I would venture to say that there is nobody that is capable of “every shot within a 6” circle at 600 yards in changing terrain and changing weather conditions”, especially with a hunting rifle.
Ryan

I believe the F Class target for 600 yds has an X-ring of 1/2 MOA or 3 inches, is that not correct?

Back in the 1980's there was a group in Pennsylvania called the "1-Mile Deer Hunters Club". The one name I remember from the group was Earl Chronister and he set a number of long range shooting records for group size. As part of my research for the SO sniping community I contacted Earl to learn more. He told me they had a place in Penn they would go out and set-up their shooting benches (not far from their trucks) that looked over a wide valley. They would then sit back on their "shooting stool" and wait for an unsuspecting deer to appear on an opposing slope. When they had a deer in sight they would then set their scopes for the estimated range and fire a sighting shot at something at least 100yds to the left or right of the deer where they could observe the impact. They would then make the corrections and engage the deer. This I would call "Deer shooting" and not "Deer Hunting"

 

[Team4LongGun]

Let's get this back on topic with the OP asking about midwest schools.

Feel free to make a separate thread for other topics

 

[JoeB]

More info on Midwest school/training would be nice if anyone has things to share on places to look I would appreciate it

 

[260shooter]

I took the level 1 (two day) class at K&M in October. I am not new to long range shooting, shot my first 1000 yard match in 1991. Caught the F-Class bug in the early 2000's. It is a very solid class that hammers fundamentals. The instructors are well versed in teaching all aspects of longrange shooting. By the end of day 1 the class was shooting to 1200 yards. Everyone was shooting some type of 6.5 flavoring, so there was shooting at 1200 but not a lot of hitting. Hits were much more consistent at 1000 yards. The importance of having a solid 100 yard zero was explained , along with the use of a Kestrel.
Day 2 started back at the 100 yard targets, confirming zero. Then it was off to another range where the class engaged targets at varying distances from 400 to 1000 yards. Some drills using holdovers. Or dialing for the first distance and using holdovers for the rest. Miling targets was touched on (coming back into use as technology advances). Ended the day (and the course for me) by moving to another range and shooting movers at 300 and 500 yards. The last drill was shooting targets, including movers from 300 to 500 yards, the caveat being that with 300 yard dope on your rifle you could only touch your turret once, using holdovers for 3 other distances.

All in all it was a very informative class, as stated earlier I am not new to longrange shooting and I learned some things that helped me with issues I had been fighting for some time.

There were first time longrange shooters there. The instructors are very good at breaking the curriculum down so everyone is able to understand it.

The facilities are first rate, from well manicured ranges with a large array of shooting props and steel targets. To the living quarters, class room, club house and pro shop everything is top notch.

My only regret is not signing up to do all 4 days, as they only do it as a 4 day block to ensure that the student and their equipment are squared away. This is to prevent a student from taking the Level 1 class and returning 2 years later not having touched their gear since the last class.

Hope this helps anyone sitting on the fence on whether this class is a good fit for them.