Let’s talk carbon monoxide poisoning

[Spoonbill]

A 1000w heater really won't do much. Then there's the fact that a fairly large power station would only give an hour of heat, then take 4-5 hrs to recharge with a generator. Most portable solar panels are only 100w or so in direct sunlight.

Makes sense, I know next to nothing about the battery banks and solar panels.

 

[SDHNTR]

the tried at true wall tent and wood stove looks better and better.

 

[bmart2622]

Make sure it actually measures in PPM. The low O2 monitors like the ones on the buddy heaters are a joke, it takes toxic levels of CO to displace enough Oxygen for them to alarm

 

[Wrench]

Quick look shows oxygen above 1.1 and nitrogen and co dangerously close to each other. Either way having a gallon of diesel and a spare battery will keep you warm for about 4 days with a diesel heater.

 

[TSAMP]

Same incident, I was mistaken, he was not alone

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[bmart2622]

Using rough firefighter math, it would take 75ppm to drop O2 levels to below 19.5%. At 10ppm we evacuate houses and even if you go by " other" standards 35ppm is considered a hazard

 

[def90]

Wall tent should be leaky enough that i can't see CO being an issue but who knows.

 

[Ucsdryder]

the tried at true wall tent and wood stove looks better and better.

Yeah I have one. It’s such a pain in the ass to set up and take down. Makes freezing my ass off in the back of the truck seem not so bad.

 

[spur60]

Get one that’s meant to be worn. Household CO detectors are famously unresponsive to low levels and could take hours at the threshold level to alert if they work at all.

This is the best course of action if you're going to use a heater. Personal CO detectors are the way to go period.

Exactly.

Most purpose built heating units (like the Mr. buddy) have a “low oxygen shutoff” and are designed to shut themselves off if oxygen gets to a certain level where combustion producing CO might start to be a concern.

But I wouldn’t trust that as far as I could throw one.

The only reason heater companies install "Low O2" switches is because some manufacturers got sued years ago. THESE SWITCHES DO NOT REPLACE CO DETECTORS. You can have lethal amounts of CO before enough oxygen is displaced to trip these switches.

I have two of these, and have hit them with test gas to verify they are accurate and will work properly.
https://www.amazon.com/Lunarlipes-P...997113&sprefix=b0cbrj7rs7,aps,137&sr=8-2&th=1

Also, please remember that the sensing elements of detectors start to decay over time, and the more gas they are exposed to, the shorter the lifespan. Don't just go off of battery life. Make sure your device has an end of life alarm or just replace it every year or two to be safe. Cheap insurance.

 

[Mule3006Elk]

I have a small Kodiak Canvas tent. 6x4 or so. My son and I warm up the tent with a Buddy Heater, ~ 10 minutes, then I pull the canister and put it outside. Eliminates any CO concerns. With our bags we are warm all night so no need to relight up the Buddy (most of the time). Down to 25 degrees we are good.

I have on very cold nights brought the canister back in and ran the Buddy for 10 minutes or so to warm up and dry out any condensation. When done the canister always goes back outside the tent.

I don't feel comfortable leaving the canister attached to the Buddy Heater all night.