Lavvu?

[JP100]

What do you guys think of these?

Somewhere between a light tipi like Kifaru or seek outside and wall tent.
I have been looking at tipis for a long time and got to use a 6 man seek outside 2 weeks ago and it wasnt quite what I thought it would be.
These look alot more durable and strong for a base camp

Any one got one?


Basic 9-11 lavvo m/justerbar topp - Frisport.no

Helsport Varanger

 

[Sverimerica]

Yeah, I have a little experience with a Savotta lavvu. Let's just say I hope to never need to use it again. First, I was expecting high quality, being a Savotta, and savotta has been kitting the Finnish army for decades. Their backpacks, while the one I had was THE most torturous I have ever used, I couldn't diss the quality, as it was top notch. Their lavvu is Chinese made, which doesn't mean it HAS to be shit, as it depends more on quality control than anything. Well, it hasn't broken, but I wouldn't trust it in wind of ANY kind. Mine doesn't have guy out points.... WTF, why?!? But it doesn't. It is a PIA to set up the 17 different pegs and for a two man shelter the footprint was ridiculously large. The sod skirt is OK, I mean, the supplied Mosquito net kept skeeters away but large Beatles crawl under every night. I guess in a nutshell I learned a couple things: I don't like a round shape footprint, so I have stayed away from tips....for me, it's easier to find / clear an area for a long, narrow footprint. I like floorless shelters, but not THAT particular shelter. The lavvu I have doesn't accomadate a stove, but has reflective material on the inside to reflect campfire warmth on the user....okay, nice idea, but getting close enough to the fire to use the warmth = I now have several small burn holes on the thing.... I decided to pay extra and go with Kifaru megatarp. I can add a stove which will hopefully minimize burning the shelter. I know seek outside allows stoves,but I stayed away from them due to hating that kind of footprint. I am just more of an A-frame kind of guy. Helsport is big up here in Scandinavia, but I haven't used their products.

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[ozyclint]

What didn't you like about the tipi? I just got a kifaru 12 man for family and up to 4 guys hunting. It's awesome.

What is that open fire in that lavvo thing? That scares me.

 

[Sverimerica]

I will say this: the varanger li nk you sent, says the damn thing is over 10 pounds (not including the pole!) for 4-6 people?!?! That doesn't sound very fun. For that much weight I would get a military tent with a stove.

***edit *** I see it DOES accomadate a stove
#whoops

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[Sverimerica]

What didn't you like about the tipi? I just got a kifaru 12 man for family and up to 4 guys hunting. It's awesome.

What is that open fire in that lavvo thing? That scares me.

Open fire was not IN the lavvu, but right outside. Sounds nice and cozy and you will be warmer, especially with the heat reflecting down to the user. You will also have tiny sparks that will burn small holes all over the thing

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[Sverimerica]

What didn't you like about the tipi? I just got a kifaru 12 man for family and up to 4 guys hunting. It's awesome.

What is that open fire in that lavvo thing? That scares me.

I just didn't like the wide, round footprint. Where I spend most of the time, it is hard enough to pitch a tent, it's just thick here with rocky ground under 4 inches of moss. So finding a place to stake out is tough. That being said, it is doable, but you need to search long and hard. Really, a hammock would make sense in my area, but I like having myself and gear in a shelter. Just personal preference I guess.

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[JP100]

What didn't you like about the tipi? I just got a kifaru 12 man for family and up to 4 guys hunting. It's awesome.

What is that open fire in that lavvo thing? That scares me.

I think for the price the tipis from seek outside and kifaru are not good value. Very basic design really and little sewing. One pole and a few pegs for nearly 2k nz. Bloody expensive for what you get. When you look at how a normal back packing tent is made its a lot more complex in terms of sewing a pole designs.

Also the fact the three of us that slept in it had wet and I mean wet sleeping bags. It was raining outside and was raining inside haha. The ventilation was not good enough.

Weight is not a huge factor for the application I want it for

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[MontanaMarine]

There is actually quite a bit of sewing in the tipis. There are a lot of long seams from tip to perimeter. That's a lot of skilled craftsmanship to get it right.

 

[Sverimerica]

I think for the price the tipis from seek outside and kifaru are not good value. Very basic design really and little sewing. One pole and a few pegs for nearly 2k nz. Bloody expensive for what you get. When you look at how a normal back packing tent is made its a lot more complex in terms of sewing a pole designs.

Also the fact the three of us that slept in it had wet and I mean wet sleeping bags. It was raining outside and was raining inside haha. The ventilation was not good enough.

Weight is not a huge factor for the application I want it for

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Yeah, condensation sucks...Kifaru is quite spendy, but I personally think they make high quality products.

Not to change this thread, but seeing you mentioned nzd...do you have experience with Swazi?? I am very curious about them, but hard to find much info other than the anorak. Just curious!

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[ozyclint]

Open fire was not IN the lavvu, but right outside.

no, it's clearly attached to the center pole. i still can't believe it.

 

[JP100]

no, it's clearly attached to the center pole. i still can't believe it.

Yea I don't know Wether I'd go with the ol fire in a basket in the middle of the tent idea haha

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[JP100]

Yeah, condensation sucks...Kifaru is quite spendy, but I personally think they make high quality products.

Not to change this thread, but seeing you mentioned nzd...do you have experience with Swazi?? I am very curious about them, but hard to find much info other than the anorak. Just curious!

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Not alot of Experience with swazi. From what I have seen it is very well made and durable but alot of the fabrics are very basic eg fleece.
Rain gear is very durable but has poor stats for breathing and water resistance

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[Mutto]

Yes. I have a 12-14 person Veranger. It is tough as nails. Handled two HUGE lake effect snow storms and a real blizzard. I am fairly new on this forum but comment below if you want to know more. I have the inner tent and floor as well. I use the largest G Stove stainless wood stove in it. It is 30lbs for the outer, inner, floor and pole. Which can be split up. We use it truck camping and also pulling on sleds/pulks. Plenty of standing room and also great if raining or heavy snow you can all sit around inside on chairs with this size tipi/lavvu!
Outer, inner, floor, pole, and pegs 30lbs
Outer 12.8 lbs
Pegs 2lbs
Pole 3.3 lbs
Inner tent 7.9 lbs
Floor 4.5 lbs

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[Misanthrop]

Open fire in a tent, well look at this

Tschum tents, i think they're awesome.
Not light but way more durable than all these plastic fabric mixes.

4 person Tipi with stove or 3 person with open fire
8,9lb but you can devide the nest

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