Ladder test vs velocities

[tdot]

Personally I always load to the top of the velocity node, and sometimes slightly above. It's always proven more consistent for me as I confirm my loads into the colder hunting months. (I only use temp stable powders)

I personally wouldn't reject the advice you've been given from other forums. There's alot of good info there. And I can only speak from experience, but my best loads have always come from the on paper results.... not just analyzing the chrono data. It's always been within 1/2 to 3/4 grain or so, but I do get better data from the paper results. And I only shoot ladder tests at 200 yards, but they do differ from 100 yards.

 

[FURMAN]

You can call your load development whatever you want but a ladder test is ONLY shot at long range and you use it to find the load by discriminating the amount of vertical between increasing powder charges. A ladder test needs to be shot over 500 yards in order to actually be capable of discriminating between vertical caused by velocity spreads or positive compensation and randomness of a bad node.

I can show you numerous targets shot in the method some of you are attempting(short range) where, lets say, three consecutive charges are in the same hole and have small velocity spreads but would not repeat and would not shoot worth a crap at distance. It is in at least 50% of the cases a waste of powder, bullets, barrel life, and time. A true ladder test never fails. If you really want to do a ladder test google Alex Wheeler or Jason Bainey ladder test.

 

[Vandy321]

You can call your load development whatever you want but a ladder test is ONLY shot at long range and you use it to find the load by discriminating the amount of vertical between increasing powder charges. A ladder test needs to be shot over 500 yards in order to actually be capable of discriminating between vertical caused by velocity spreads or positive compensation and randomness of a bad node.

I can show you numerous targets shot in the method some of you are attempting(short range) where, lets say, three consecutive charges are in the same hole and have small velocity spreads but would not repeat and would not shoot worth a crap at distance. It is in at least 50% of the cases a waste of powder, bullets, barrel life, and time. A true ladder test never fails. If you really want to do a ladder test google Alex Wheeler or Jason Bainey ladder test.

But 69% of the time, it works everytime, so......

 

[FURMAN]

But 69% of the time, it works everytime, so......

60%... but yes.

 

[Vandy321]

Wasnt quoting anchorman....

But back to your point. Agree to disagree. It's ALL about scale. No difference in testing at 100 yards vs 500 yards except scale of the results and external factors having more flight time to influence the results. When someone says ONLY in a statement of opinion, I tend to make it a point to disagree...unless you were saying that is ONLY your opinion.

 

[FURMAN]

You can think what you want I could not care less I have countless targets to prove my point period. I will not argue with those that will not listen as I don't care if you waste your time and components. I am simply trying to help even one newbie save some time and money.

 

[Vandy321]

You have countless targets with invalid results at 100? Or, someone told toy once to shoot it at 500, and you did and now that's the ONLY way to do it?

If you're going to talk in absolutes, at least show statistics.

Lile I said, agree to disagree, nothing wrong with that