Kuiu Outer Layer- Peloton 240 or Guide DCS

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All, I am trying to decide between these two for my outer layer. I like that the Guide is water resistant, but it is much heavier. Peloton 240 seems to be a good alternative, but has less features like pit zips. Already have 145 merino base and the Kenai jacket. Maybe I should consider another jacket? Any input on which way I should go would be much appreciated!
 

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Peloton 240 for a layered system. Guide is heavy.


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I've used both.

240 Peloton is really more of a mid layer, comparitive in weight and breathabilty to your average hoody. It might be OK as your shell during the early season. The Guide jacket is real outerwear, fairly water and wind resistent, warmer, and heavier.
 

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Both great pieces imo, but they are quite different. So it would depend on how you wanted to use it. The Guide is a much more tough/durable jacket that is a true outerwear piece and will shed light precipitation. The Peloton 240 is very comfortable but is not really a true outer piece. It can be used that way, but would be better for more open country and not busting brush or thick/dense terrain as it snags easily. If you're only going to use it occasionally, I would lean towards the Peloton as it is lighter and less bulky to pack. Other options to consider would be a vest. I love the Guide vest and use it much more than the jacket or the 240. You could pair it with just your 145 merino or add a mid-weight such as Peloton 200 or merino 210. That would give you a lot of versatility. If you have to stick with a jacket, the Chinook or Teton are good lighter weight softshells. The Chinook has more features but the Teton is a nice jacket for the price.

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Thanks for the input guys. I was thinking I would use the peloton 240 as an outer layer and if it got really cold, throw on my Kenai jacket underneath. Does anyone else do that?

So it would basically be used as my outer layer. Not too worried about snags as Nevada is fairly open country.
 

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Thanks for the input guys. I was thinking I would use the peloton 240 as an outer layer and if it got really cold, throw on my Kenai jacket underneath. Does anyone else do that?

So it would basically be used as my outer layer. Not too worried about snags as Nevada is fairly open country.
You could definitely do that.

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Is the 240 true to size? I wear a large in sweatshirts/shirts, but I was thinking of going xl so i could layer the Kenai underneath.
 
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I would think the Kenai would go over the peleton?
With a rain shell as the top layer if needed.

That is how I planned on running my system except my peleton is the 200. And my puffy is the cirrus.

I also have the guide jacket but don't see myself using it as much as the puffy/rain shell combo

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Thanks for the input guys. I was thinking I would use the peloton 240 as an outer layer and if it got really cold, throw on my Kenai jacket underneath. Does anyone else do that?

So it would basically be used as my outer layer. Not too worried about snags as Nevada is fairly open country.

I can't speak for the Kenai, but the superdown does fit under the 240.

Already great reaponses here, but I'll add a thing or two. Early season the 240 would probably be fine. Late season when it's colder I'd use the guide. The guide would keep you out of rain gear a hair longer when it's starts to rain or snow. So with the 240, you might need a Teton rain jacket as well. The 240 will need rain gear quickly. Also the Guide is much more wind resistant. Just a few thoughts.

In the end, you'll have a ton of stuff anyway. Just start buying them all. Lol.
 

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Is the 240 true to size? I wear a large in sweatshirts/shirts, but I was thinking of going xl so i could layer the Kenai underneath.
The 240 is true to size. I have a large 240 and a large Kenai. I could run either one over the top of the other. I wouldn't size up.

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I have cabelas space rain jacket 1/4 zip that works pretty well, at least in the most dry state of Nevada.

145 merino/Kenai/peloton 240/space-rain should take me all the way from August to October. If I go later in November-December, the Guide jacket might be required as well.

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I would put the Kenai over the top, but the fabric seems like it could rip really easy which is why I would want the 240 over the top mostly for wind protection and durability.
 
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I would say in my experience owning both the 240 is more wind resistant and past threads on the topic have generally agreed. With Nevada being more open country I would think the wind is a larger factor than rain or snow. I currently run the 240 as my outer layer and did all 40+ days I hunted in Montana and Idaho last year. If I wasn't wearing it I had it in my pack. In the past I had the guide jacket but the wind cut right through it even when the breeze wasn't that strong. If you think the time of year you will be using it is going to be more variable weather with storms blowing through frequently that could bring rain, snow or any combination in between then maybe consider the guide otherwise I would go peloton 240.
 

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I think the 240 is a great outer layer earlier season for a guy that doesnt use a soft shell like myself. A lot lighter and less bulky in the pack that a guide jacket.
 

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Short answer.. both.
Guide is a great all around jacket but too heavy for some circumstances.
Peloton 240 layers better, packs better, weighs less.
Guide is more durable, peloton blocks wind better.
I justify my guide jacket in the early season because it also serves as my mid layer. If I'm going in far for a week then the guide is too much bulk and weight

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It definately sounds like the 240 is the right choice for me, at least on my archery hunts. For rifle season, I will probably invest in the guide jacket when the time comes. Thanks everyone for the input.
 

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You won't be sorry if your a layer guy. By far the best piece I own (hooded version) along with the super down n light weight rain gear.


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I was torn too but already had a jacket that serves the purpose of the 240 so I bought the guide since I didn't have anything for that purpose.

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