Kuiu "Made in China"

[Rocky]

I love the gear but it sucks that he was not open about the move

 

[6t4nova]

I'll continue to support them as long as the quality of the clothing remains the same or better. I wonder how many can say that ALL their hunting gear is Made in the US......

 

[jherald]

There are changes in the new pants. Guide pants no longer have the pocket flaps over the zippers and the guide pants and attack pants are slightly slimmer; by about an inch. Attack pants still have the flaps over the pockets. I prefer to keep the flaps over the pockets and the original fit. Anyone with me on that one?

 

[jherald]

One person referred to the fit of the new pants as "skinny jeans" if you order your true size. Time will tell if they clean it up since the move. I know I dont want to order some pants in my size only to find out they are too small and then have to send them back and eat the shipping both ways.

 

[Jager]

Hunters in the US are fortunate enough that they provide such a large market to have so much of their equipment made in the US. Most of the firearms Australian hunters use are from US companies and a couple of European countries. As far as clothing goes, in all honesty, it all comes from offshore. I have a mate who set up an Australian hunting accessories company a few years ago, and yes, much of his gear is made in China, it is the only choice.

Nike is an iconic US company, with great products, where are their products made though?

The one thing imo Kuiu needs to consider, is their shipping policy, it just doesn't add up, pun intented.

 

[hoytbaxter]

This is a serious question. I am not mocking. For those of you who don't support KUIU because of their actions, who do you support? What other companies have a quality Western Hunting product. I am getting ready to pull the trigger and would like to buy the right product. I would prefer American (Canada) if such a company exists.

Quality Merino Wool that will hold up. Quality rain gear.

I am too poor to buy cheap. I want to buy my gear once. I want it to last.

Shoot Straight.

 

[Bluto]

Wild things makes everything in multicam, if that's good enough. EXPENSIVE, but all US made. Basically, everyone has sold out, which is pretty pathetic. I could deal with "foreign," just not china. Too close to archery season to save up for this year, but that's what I'm moving to. Kryptek for sale by January...

 

[greyghostnw]

i like the fit of kryptek merino, pants, coats etc but kuiu seems to be no slouch when it comes to materials. and ya hurd all about the old packs having problems but drama need not reply. kryptek is made in vietnam it seems and not much is made local per say when it comes to apparel. good luck.

 

[Shrek]

Beyond Clothing , Wild Things , Grey Wolf , Day One all cut and sew in the USA as far as I know. Fabrics I don't think can be USA sourced but at least the majority of the added value is kept at home and not supporting our enemies. Almost all my clothing is east Asian manufactured and I hate that it is. I've been buying mostly gear for the last two years but next years goals are better clothing and I'm going to mix in as much USA made as I can . These companies are small so the cost savings from scale isn't there which exaggerates the cost disparity between USA and Asian manufacturing. As we loose our manufacturing base it becomes harder for those that remain because the associated infrastructure goes away.

 

[BroodBuster]

I can't say I've met a lot of young Americans who want to spend a career in front of a sewing machine. American made clothing is simply not viable economically when you factor in the labor cost of a job that nobody wants to do anyways.

I suppose if somebody came up with a robot that could sew, thus employing maybe one maintenance guy, you'd all be happy buying American made? Of course that robot would probably be made in Japan. But hey the tag has a little American flag on it.

And for all of you "Patriots" who are pissed about this please turn in your German made optics, Italian made boots and Mexican er American made trucks.

The global supply chain bus left the terminal in the 90's!

And if you really want someone to blame this on go ahead and blame it on me as I build large freighter airliners for a living reducing the cost of bringing these types of items to market so that we can all afford them.

Of course the Co. I work for is the largest exporter in America so while you're bitching about me I'll just wrap myself in an American flag knowing my employer is carrying the load of American manufacturing

I'll continue to buy the best quality for the best value with solid customer service. And I don't really give a crap where it's built. Especially if I hit the overnight air button

 

[BroodBuster]

Having said all of that I do support local retailers. I'm not a big internet shopper and prefer to touch a product and discuss it with people who are more familiar with it. Not to mention they will typically deal with the warranty crap after handing me a replacement.

 

[jm1607]

Dang, this thread got resurrected..

This is a serious question. I am not mocking. For those of you who don't support KUIU because of their actions, who do you support? What other companies have a quality Western Hunting product.

http://www.rokslide.com/other/friends-of-rokslide

 

[dotman]

Talk about bringing a thread back from the dead.

 

[InDeep]

I can't say I've met a lot of young Americans who want to spend a career in front of a sewing machine. American made clothing is simply not viable economically when you factor in the labor cost of a job that nobody wants to do anyways.

I suppose if somebody came up with a robot that could sew, thus employing maybe one maintenance guy, you'd all be happy buying American made? Of course that robot would probably be made in Japan. But hey the tag has a little American flag on it.

And for all of you "Patriots" who are pissed about this please turn in your German made optics, Italian made boots and Mexican er American made trucks.

The global supply chain bus left the terminal in the 90's!

And if you really want someone to blame this on go ahead and blame it on me as I build large freighter airliners for a living reducing the cost of bringing these types of items to market so that we can all afford them.

Of course the Co. I work for is the largest exporter in America so while you're bitching about me I'll just wrap myself in an American flag knowing my employer is carrying the load of American manufacturing

I'll continue to buy the best quality for the best value with solid customer service. And I don't really give a crap where it's built. Especially if I hit the overnight air button

Yeah buddy !

 

[Shrek]

Broodbuster , I wouldn't sleep so well if I were in your shoes. The Chinese were 50 years behind us just fifteen years ago and would never catch up supposedly. The put a back door into the cernel of every chip they made for us for years and stole much of the technology they needed . They negotiated to build the bodies of the airliners we sold them so they could see how we manage and operate the assembly. The Chinese will have it down in no time and only a matter of time before they start to compete with Boeing and Airbus. It will get ugly in Seattle fast once they get rolling.

 

[BroodBuster]

So as an American you're afraid of a little competition?

My gear list:
Pack American
Clothes China
Boots Italy
Camera, tripod, scope Japan
Binos Germany
Tent, axe Sweden
Truck Made in America but has a Toyota emblem
Anything made of Marino wool New Zealand but stitched in SE Asia
Bow assembled in America but the riser is made in France
Sunglasses Taiwan
Rifles America
Scope (not sure where Leopolds are built)
Shotgun Italy

That's just off the top of my head. I'd love to see your all American gear list.

I think your indignation has more to do with Kuiu than patriotism. But your gear list may prove me wrong.

 

[dotman]

Really most of the categories on your list have American mfg's, the quality can be lower and/or higher depending on the category. Competition if fair isn't an issue, but to have a labor force that is paid a dollar a day as your competition, well it is easy to be priced out for an inferior product and the China made items just keep getting better and better in quality, look at Kuiu.

 

[orionsbrother]

"And if you really want someone to blame this on go ahead and blame it on me as I build large freighter airliners for a living reducing the cost of bringing these types of items to market so that we can all afford them."


AHA! I've been looking for someone to blame! You...

 

[airlocksniffer]

It's tough to find much American-made apparel anymore. I'm looking at investing in some camo and was looking hard at Kuiu but found they are made in China. Not that I feel their product is low-quality (it's not from what I gather). Then I moved to First Lite and i'm pretty sure that's made in China as well. Yes, my boots are from Germany (Lowa) but I'd be willing to bet the folks who make those boots get paid a hell of a lot more than the Chinese workers making First Lite and Kuiu. If Kuiu and First Lite save a bunch of money by moving their manufacturing overseas, why don't we pay less as consumers?

 

[Shrek]

I have no problem with fair trade and my living depends on it. I own and drive a truck for a living . Probably 95% of my work is import /export to and from the port and rail . I'm against utilizing totalitarian socialist regimes to exploit their people and undermine us labor and finance our cultural nemesis. I love my german optics and boots and feel no regret when I purchase them. Their societies are liberal democracies and somewhat share our basic cultural values. The workers are not being forcefully exploited and enjoy some real freedom choice. The reason so much sewing is going to Vietnam is that the Chinese are moving up the economic chain and their workers are demanding relatively higher wages. The work is moving to an even cheaper labor force controlled by an even more ruthless government. I'm all for global trade with allies but I'm against trade with evil enemies.