I bought these used to try out but I’m sticking with my size 36. The guy I bought them from said they were loden but they match my ash colored pants. They were previously hemmed but original owner took it out before I bought them. The material is in pretty good shape. I don’t see any holes, picks or many pulls on the exterior of the pant. The logos show signs of wear. Size 34R. $70 pp tyd.