KRG Echo - Sporterish version of bravo for tikkas

[NW_backcountry90]

Working for the .223 trainer. I am kind of partial to the feel of a carbon fiber stock but it’s serving its purpose of not dumping a bunch of money into it. Lol

 

[Hurley88]

Please document this and start a new thread on how you do this inletting on a VG stock!

Will do. Still in the planning phase now, but it’s definitely going to happen.

 

[Formidilosus]

Triggercam through identical T3x’s with SWFA 10x. 308 win, 147gr FMJ, UM OTB suppressors. First with KRG Echo, second with ROKStok.


The KRG is with doing everything possible to control recoil- everything. The ROKStok was held loose as possible for the first shot, and held normally for the second.


KRG Echo:
The first shot from was not spotted, reticle was 4 mils high and 5 mils right. Second was barely spotted, 7 mils high, 4 mils right.


ROKStok:
First shot was held loose, shot slotted easily, reticle was 1 mil down, and right 4 mils.
Second shot held normally, shot slotted, reticle never left target, down 2 mils.

There were also two Roksliders shooting both rifles that will hopefully comment on the difference. The short version is all thought the Echo was “violent” in recoil, and definitely was harder to spot shots.

 

[flyfisher117]

Definitely helps when they center punch the rock too. The grazing shot is tough to spot

 

[Willie IV]

Dammit... who wants to buy my Echo now??? I got one for sale

 

[Balderdash]

Dammit... who wants to buy my Echo now??? I got one for sale

How much?

I still like mine for what I'm doing with it.

 

[Willie IV]

How much?

I still like mine for what I'm doing with it.

PM sent

 

[littlebigtine]

Triggercam through identical T3x’s with SWFA 10x. First with KRG Echo, second with ROKStok.


The KRG is with doing everything possible to control recoil- everything. The ROKStok was held loose as possible for the first shot, and held normally for the second.


KRG Echo:
The first shot from was not spotted, reticle was 4 mils high and 5 mils right. Second was barely spotted, 7 mils high, 4 mils right.


ROKStok:
First shot was held loose, shot slotted easily, reticle was 1 mil down, and right 4 mils.
Second shot held normally, shot slotted, reticle never left target, down 2 mils.

There were also two Roksliders shooting both rifles that will hopefully comment on the difference. The short version is all thought the Echo was “violent” in recoil, and definitely was harder to spot shots.

What positions are you shooting in? What cartridge? What suppressor or muzzle device?

 

[Formidilosus]

What positions are you shooting in? What cartridge? What suppressor or muzzle device?

I meant to put that in there.

T3x
308win
147gr FMJ
SWFA 10x
UM OTB suppressor

Prone from a pack on the front and rear bag.

 

[Formidilosus]

Definitely helps when they center punch the rock too. The grazing shot is tough to spot

Yes, but there is no comparison between them in muzzle jump and spotting your own shots.

 

[5811]

Yes, but there is no comparison between them in muzzle jump and spotting your own shots.

This was a substantial result. I appreciate the methodology for the comparison.

As a guy with an echo, I don't appreciate it as much, but objectively, tough to argue with the result.

 

[Formidilosus]

This was a substantial result. I appreciate the methodology for the comparison.

As a guy with an echo, I don't appreciate it as much, but objectively, tough to argue with the result.

The Echo wouldn’t be bad if I could figure out what is making it rattle when it’s shot.

 

[littlebigtine]

The Echo wouldn’t be bad if I could figure out what is making it rattle when it’s shot.

I jbwelded the aluminum backbone to the polymer portion of the stock. Mostly underneath the tikka recoil lug. Use it for my 223 and it sounds/shoots satisfactory.

 

[DisplacedHusky]

I meant to put that in there.

T3x
308win
147gr FMJ
SWFA 10x
UM OTB suppressor

Prone from a pack on the front and rear bag.

How far was the target?

 

[Formidilosus]

How far was the target?

380 yards IIRC.

 

[GiantGreg]

I got an Echo in Tikka 16” 223 with a can . I like it no issues. But that’s practically no recoil


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[Outdoorsman12b]

Triggercam through identical T3x’s with SWFA 10x. 308 win, 147gr FMJ, UM OTB suppressors. First with KRG Echo, second with ROKStok.


The KRG is with doing everything possible to control recoil- everything. The ROKStok was held loose as possible for the first shot, and held normally for the second.


KRG Echo:
The first shot from was not spotted, reticle was 4 mils high and 5 mils right. Second was barely spotted, 7 mils high, 4 mils right.


ROKStok:
First shot was held loose, shot slotted easily, reticle was 1 mil down, and right 4 mils.
Second shot held normally, shot slotted, reticle never left target, down 2 mils.

There were also two Roksliders shooting both rifles that will hopefully comment on the difference. The short version is all thought the Echo was “violent” in recoil, and definitely was harder to spot shots.

How much worse yet is the factory stock than the echo?

 

[TX_Diver]

I meant to put that in there.

T3x
308win
147gr FMJ
SWFA 10x
UM OTB suppressor

Prone from a pack on the front and rear bag.

Would a Bravo have performed better than the echo?

 

[Brontosaurus]

Triggercam through identical T3x’s with SWFA 10x. 308 win, 147gr FMJ, UM OTB suppressors. First with KRG Echo, second with ROKStok.


The KRG is with doing everything possible to control recoil- everything. The ROKStok was held loose as possible for the first shot, and held normally for the second.


KRG Echo:
The first shot from was not spotted, reticle was 4 mils high and 5 mils right. Second was barely spotted, 7 mils high, 4 mils right.


ROKStok:
First shot was held loose, shot slotted easily, reticle was 1 mil down, and right 4 mils.
Second shot held normally, shot slotted, reticle never left target, down 2 mils.

There were also two Roksliders shooting both rifles that will hopefully comment on the difference. The short version is all thought the Echo was “violent” in recoil, and definitely was harder to spot shots.

That's pretty crazy muzzle flip for the echo. I feel like the reticle movement looks eerily similar to shooting a 6.5 cm in a factory tikka stock.

 

[Formidilosus]

Would a Bravo have performed better than the echo?

In reticle movement- only due to the increased weight.