Knot masters?

[RME]

I use a bowline everyday and it’s a great knot but if the knot was going back and forth between slack and tight I would use something else because it could work its way out.

Agreed. I've always been a big fan of the bowline but at some point I grudgingly accepted that sometimes there's a better knot. I didn't like using the figure 8 at first but quickly got used to it and it's a good choice for the OP.

 

[Hoodie]

Bowlines can be tied with an overhand safety knot or a Yosemite tieback in a scenario where you're worried about slippage potential. I trust my life to a running bowline choked off around a tree at least twice a week. Always use some variation of back-up.

Figure 8s are a great knot, it's just a slower option for girth hitching around a tree. You can tie a running bowline in like 8 seconds.

 

[LostArra]

Rope used: it seems extremely stout

 

[ColeyG]

That rope will snap before either of those knots give way.

Knots reduce the “strength” of the rope by 15-30% depending on the knot and the rope. Absent any other variables like a sharp edge or weakened portion of the rope, the rope will always fail at the knot.

 

[Macintosh]

Rope used: it seems extremely stoutView attachment 1067813View attachment 1067814

Assuming youre not using it for raising and lowering your truck, it is massively overkill for almost any use. What ARE you using it for? Talking about knots in the abstract is fine, but that’s really critical information if you want any real advice. This is for a tree stand tether/safety line, correct?

 

[Macintosh]

Bowlines can be tied with an overhand safety knot or a Yosemite tieback in a scenario where you're worried about slippage potential. I trust my life to a running bowline choked off around a tree at least twice a week. Always use some variation of back-up.

Figure 8s are a great knot, it's just a slower option for girth hitching around a tree. You can tie a running bowline in like 8 seconds.

A lot less than eight seconds, and if you’re good with it you can even tie it one handed. I use a double bowline to tie in climbing, have for 30+ years. But, it’s possible to tie it wrong, in a way that is not nearly as strong, but still looks like a bowline (with tail outside the knot, or even worse sideways to the load). That, being more prone to loosening and being more directional are the reasons it’s generally not the standard “go-to” for most climbing safety applications, especially for someone who isnt well practiced.

 

[LostArra]

Assuming youre not using it for raising and lowering your truck, it is massively overkill for almost any use. What ARE you using it for? Talking about knots in the abstract is fine, but that’s really critical information if you want any real advice. This is for a tree stand tether/safety line, correct?

I'm not sure I understand your question.
Someone at camp bought this rope for treestand safety lines as in the photo. No one really cares if it's overkill.
My question is about knots and it sounds like the figure 8 will work great.
The only downside of this beefy rope is it's a little bit of a struggle to tie and dress the knot but once it's done, it's done.
I'm sure some knot ninja could do it but a one-handed bowline with this rope would be a feat.

 

[Macintosh]

@LostArra that answered the question. The question was just confirming what you are using it for, your earlier post with the photo I thought was clear but there were some answers that were not appropriate for that use so wanted to confirm. A taught line hitch was suggested earlier, which is a great knot, its just not a life-safety knot.

Overkill=safe, just commenting because you suggested it seemed extremely stout—it is. It’s designed for heavy mechanical-advantage systems with a huge safety margin. You could cut it down by A LOT and it woukd still be plenty safe. Thats all. If the bulk isnt an issue, then its an advantage.

Regardless, figure 8 knot is your huckleberry. I would personally not use the other without extensively testing it. It is not a recognizable knot that I know of, might be fine, but I don’t like the angles and it’s certainly not going to be any better than the eight. Your use is not particularly hard, you’re never going to put anywhere near the amount of force on that system as you would for what it’s designed for. Regardless, the consequences are high enough and doing it right is so easy, there really isn’t an advantage to doing it any other way.

 

[Rolando]

Rope used: it seems extremely stoutView attachment 1067813View attachment 1067814

I used 11mm Assaultline to make my lineman's rope. It's worked out fine.

 

[LostArra]

**I updated the rogue knot in the original photo to the figure 8.

Thanks again to all