Knight ULite Shooting-Testing

[sabotloader]

Today was another testing day of sorts... I have never - ever trusted Quick Release Scope Mounts to maintain zero once removed and replaced. Well, I did that today, I removed the NECG Peep sight from the Warne (Weaver) scope block and replaced it with the scope.

The scope had been sighted in some time back but I took it off a couple of weeks ago and in re-installed the NECG Peep. Today I wanted to find out for sure if the scope would hold zero. I had the release levers tightened to a 1:00 position the last time the scope was shot. Today I set the scope on the Warne blocks and tightened the levers to the same position they were when I removed the scope.

I guess the target results verify what Warne and lots of other people have said - they will return to '0'

Shot #1... I touched off 4 primers and ran a slightly moist Windex patch after the primers. Then loaded the rifle with my normal elk hunting load. Touched off #1 - It really did not seem to far out of place, I just hate shooting and hunting on a clean barrel. Shots 2-5 proved to me again there is a difference. Actually it proved two things the scope will re-mount to '0' and shot #1 on a clean bore is never as good as the rest. Shot #5 was as always Semi's fault- if he had never posted the rules it would not have happened but I started thinking about the rules and actually over concentrated!

 

[robby denning]

Sabotloader!
Hey man, haven't forgot about you. I've been swamped with the blog as of late and have missed a bunch of your posts.

This one is very interesting and might solve one of my problems. I develop loads with the scope then switch to peep, but you know how that goes. Sometimes you want to check something with the scope and you're only choice is to remount and rezero. Can you give me some links to the quick release products you describe.

Thanks for keeping it coming on here. you are really one of the most informative muzzleloader guys out there. Much appreciated!

 

[sabotloader]

Sabotloader!
Hey man, haven't forgot about you. I've been swamped with the blog as of late and have missed a bunch of your posts.

Not to worry... I have been busy shooting while you dedicated guys take care of all the paper work! I really like it that way

This one is very interesting and might solve one of my problems. I develop loads with the scope then switch to peep, but you know how that goes. Sometimes you want to check something with the scope and you're only choice is to remount and rezero. Can you give me some links to the quick release products you describe.

Basically, I am using Weaver style scope bases - steel ones to be exact. Both Weaver and Leupold offer this style base now, and I think they both contract Weaver to build them for them.

These are the bases....

Then Warne and Leupold offer the QR or QRW type rings. I am using Warne Rings but I think I actually like the mechanical build of the Leupold better. The next set I order will be the Leupold style. All of these are steel and do not stretch.

With both of these ring set ups - you tighten the ring to the base with the levers on the side of the ring. I tighten mine very snug - then pull the lever out to release it and turn it to the 1:00 position. Then when I remove the scope and re-install it I turn the levers tight - right back to the position they came from. I think this really helps to maintain the scope zero...

Warne Maxima Rings

Leupold Rings

The complementary peep sight for this set up is the NECG-Weaver. I purchase these from Brownells...

http://newenglandcustomgun.com/Gun_Services/Peep_Sights.asp

The sight is really easy to install and remove, but, they are not real easy to sight in with because they are a slide and glide sight - no clicks. NECG does provide some very good directions and estimates of the movement of the sight. It really is good to READ the directions before you begin sight in process... I kinda worked at it the opposite way.... dumb

Thanks for keeping it coming on here. you are really one of the most informative muzzleloader guys out there. Much appreciated!

I really enjoy sharing and reading other thoughts from folks...

mike

 

[robby denning]

OK, I see how those quick mounts work. Sounds like the lever pulls out and locks at 1:00- does that mean it can't be bumped loose easily when hunting?

 

[sabotloader]

OK, I see how those quick mounts work. Sounds like the lever pulls out and locks at 1:00- does that mean it can't be bumped loose easily when hunting?

YES! there is a possibility that the levers can be snagged - get caught and possibly loosen... They do not loosen easily if you have tightened them, but if you have tighten them firmly in place they are difficult to move. Then re-locate the levers to position that you desire and a visual check of the levers positions will tell you quickly if they have been moved or not.

 

[robby denning]

Sabotloader, do you have any advice for this lucky guy who drew a muzz tag for moose in Colorado?
Would love to see him get a gun together and what you'd recommend. Colorado muzz law very similar to Idaho except they can use 209's and don't have to have an open breech when cocked.
http://www.rokslide.com/forums/showthread.php?7363-moose-with-a-muzzleloader&p=98137#post98137

 

[sabotloader]

Sabotloader, do you have any advice for this lucky guy who drew a muzz tag for moose in Colorado?
Would love to see him get a gun together and what you'd recommend. Colorado muzz law very similar to Idaho except they can use 209's and don't have to have an open breech when cocked.
http://www.rokslide.com/forums/showthread.php?7363-moose-with-a-muzzleloader&p=98137#post98137

Done but - I must have had to much time on my hands - it got pretty long. Hope it offers him some beneficial thoughts

mike

 

[robby denning]

Thanks Mike for helping him over on that thread,
very good post. Keep it coming, we're learning a lot.