Knife Sharpening Advice

Yesterday I took 6 old butcher knives ( Dexters) from beat up and needing love to scary sharp in about 30 min on a worksharp.

It is an awesome sharpener for that. However, like many others have said here I would not take my Shun or Benchmade to it. For those, I would use a stone by hand.

I feel like a lot of guys go wrong by not owning and using steel. Everyone should own a good steel like an F.Dick
 
I started using a Lansky back in the 80's. I tried the KME when they came out and didn't like it. Tried the Worksharp and with just one stroke it took way too much metal off my S30V steel knife. Still use the Worksharp on axes and lawn mower blades, but won't use it on my knives. Went back to Lansky and finish on a leather strop. Mirror finish with a very sharp blade.
 
I use water stones on wood chisels and planes, occassionally for an axe or hatchet. For knives, a Spyderco sharpmaker is my go to tool. Its efficient at sharpening the harder steels such as D2 and S30V, and will turn an old school high carbon steel blade into a scalpel in just a few strokes.
 
Lots of options, but I think the number 1 thing people that are unsuccessful do is apply to much pressure. Holding the same angle, light pressure, and patience is the key. Just my .02 cents
 
I suppose there are as many opinions about sharpening as there are folks using knives! My perspective on sharpening is a maybe a bit different as I'm a chef; for years I hung out my shingle as a sharpener on the side and did some work for a high end Japanese knife vendor. But while my specialty (if you will) is Japanese kitchen knives the method is universal- no matter the blade you must grind the bevels til they meet [usually in the middle] and then remove the burr. Finer stones refine the edge but don't really make it 'sharper'. A knife should cleanly shave coming right off the arato (coarse) stone once you remove the burr.

Personally I don't advise oil stones. They're simply too slow compared to a water stone, and once they dish there's not much to do with them but toss 'em out. They can do a good job of course they're just not ideal IMO.

I'm not crazy about diamonds either except for setting a bevel. IMO an Atoma 140 is the perfect arato and the DMT XXC is a close second. Diamonds are great for some 'super steels' that are very hard and/or very abrasive resistant. But they'll wear out pretty fast on softer steels like 440C.

Belts work very well! But there's a learning curve; not a steep one but as others have noted you need to use a light touch to avoid removing too much steel. You can't add it back on! A cheap grinder like the Harbor Freight runs to fast and risks burning the edge and removing the temper.

For simple maintenance the Spyderco Sharpmaker is super. But if you let the edge get to dull you're in for a long day trying to reprofile it on the stock ceramic rods. It's best for touch-ups between regular sharpenings.

A mousepad and sandpaper is certainly viable but only for convex edges. I'm not a big fan of convex although that's just my personal opinion. We all bring biases along with us and mine is this- I like the same kind of edge on a hunting or bushcraft knife as I do on a kitchen knife. Convex edges kind of "swim" through the cut with food and I hate that. YMMV.

For an entry level device that's not super spendy, and if it's for knives under 5" or so, the Lansky is pretty good. I think the Gatco is a bit better and the KME better still. For a bit more money the Edge Pro Apex is hard to beat.

Free hand with water stones is very versatile. Once you master it you can do everything from an axe to Yanagi-ba. Getting good will take somewhere between a couple months and a couple decades, it depends on your aptitude and commitment.

Some of the upscale jig/guided systems have a wide selection of superb water stones available. The Edge Pro line and the Wicked Edge both can be had with Shapton Pro Stones, Shapton GlassStones, Naniwa Chocera/Pro stones, DMT plates, Atoma diamond plates, Sigma Power, Beston, etc. If you plan to do a lot of sharpening work it can be well worth the money.

Sharpening can transcend being something you do because you need a sharp knife; you can go "down the rabbit hole" and let it become a serious obsession! I have perhaps $2,500 worth of Japanese kitchen knives in my work case but at least $3,500 worth of water stones! A good Japanese natural (ie mined from a mountain) can cost as much as a compact car. You don't have to spend a ton of course but it can become a hobby in its own right.
 
I have to wonder if the guys saying the worksharp takes too much material aren't using too aggressive of a belt or too much belt speed. If you want a fool-proof means of getting a resilient, functional edge, it's tough to beat the worksharp. I agree, however, that nothing beats a good stone followed up with strop. I don't really like the lansky system or any of the others that are guided by some kind of pivoting mechanism as they don't lay down a consistent bevel angle across the blade typically. Especially on longer knives. Just my two cents.
 
Agree with above. Worksharp has two models, the more expensive one one has variable speed. When using the belts only speed 1 of 10 and I like worn belts. When using the polishing 12000 belt and their leather belt on speed 5.

I like the belt attachment for a horizontal contact with knife so I can see the edge and minimize pressure. The vertical standard allows the weight of the knife to apple too much pressure.

I love water stones for true reprofiling and belts for touch up and complete with leather strop. I cover everything outdoors but not kitchen. Easy to convex in a stone actually, just many hold angles
 
I used a lanksy at one time. I didn't think it did a great jog and the rod seemed to flexible. Got a Work sharp and haven't looked back. I sharpen everything from my two man kitchen knives to my small pocket knives. Gets them super sharp and they have an even edge.
 
The Ken Onion Worksharp is a lot nicer than the standard WS. But then you're getting up close to the price of a 'real grinder' like a 1x42" Kalamazoo.
 
I have the Lansky 5 stone kit and replaced the extra coarse stone with a ultra-fine stone for really putting the last bit of goodness on the knifes edge. I can get a knife scary sharp with it and it works just fine. Now that being said if I would have spotted the KME system first I might have gone that route. It just seems to be a more precise system, but there is NOTHING wrong with the LANKSY SYSTEM!

I have a buddy who uses a work sharp and he told me that after I sharpen his knives with the Lansky they are sharper from the start and for whatever reason they hold their edge and stay sharper longer! It will take me about 30 minutes to sharpen a knife that has been abused/sharpened in various fashion. When I have to touch up the same edge when it's starting to go it only takes me about 10 minutes to get it back to a perfect edge.

As far as touch-ups in the field, I do carry two knives always so there is one sharp knife all the time. I usually do pack a small ceramic sharpener for touch-ups should they be needed though. I have a Lansky kit in my house and one in my camper all the time if I'm hunting from it and not out of a pack.
 
I have used the lansky for years and i thought I knew what i was doing as I could set the bevel and attain a good edge fairly easy. Touch ups were quick and It was effective. I gave my knife to my buddy and he used his Wicked edge sharpener and my knife had never been so sharp. I'm currently saving up for a wicked edge.
 
Edge Pro Apex. Razor sharp and they stay that way. I carry a ceramic pencil hone in my pack to touch up the edges if necessary.
 
This is exactly right. Any tool will work if you evenly remove metal creating a consistent scratch pattern and developing a consistent burr. Then apex the edge by removing the burr.

On the other hand, you will never get consistent hair-popping sharp without forming a consistent burr and apexing the edge.

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Edge pro, good stuff! Have you tried any of their new stones? Just curious
 
No I haven't. Mine are 10 + years old and still good, might need to replace the 120/220 grit soon though (seems like everyone wants me to sharpen their knives for them now).
 
Edge pro, good stuff! Have you tried any of their new stones? Just curious

Awesome tool for sure, pricey though!

I have the Apex 4, with standard stones. I believe they have new diamond stones, and I may eventually upgrade when these are shot, but I literally can’t imagine better results so no plans to upgrade currently.
 
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