Kifaru SuperTarp and nest

[mrbillbrown]

Anybody running a nest in their SuperTarp?

Which one? Like it? Hate it? Recommendations?

I need some bug protection for more year round use out of a tarp.

TIA, mrbill

 

[beachbunny]

you know , i was wondering the same thing for mine mrb. i was just using a bivy with a screen

 

[InIt2Live]

Not quite answering your question, but I use a BearPaw pyranet 1 in my Mountain Shelter LT when it gets too buggy for me. I wouldn't say it's the cats meow but it gives me some bug proof sleeping, while allowing me to sit up and wake up without being eaten by the mosquito birds up here. I'm 6'3" and about 225lbs and I fit comfortably in it with my Big Agnes Elk Park and wide/long sleeping pad. I ended up with this one because I found a smokin deal, and it fits right in my Mountain Shelter. I tie it off where my front pole goes, so it kind of hangs instead of using a third pole to put it up.

 

[Tim in Wa.]

Yes .Bear Paw Wilderness designs net tent.He makes one with a sloped ridge line
Tim

 

[beachbunny]

or we break out the sewing machine mrb,
i was wondering about that sloped one, thanks

 

[Curtis C]

If I was gonna go through the trouble to add a nest to one of the small floorless shelters I would consider going with a lightweight tent from Tarptent or Big Agnes. Just seems like that would be much more user friendly.

 

[Tim in Wa.]

The one I have has a bathtub floor, sets up with 4 stakes and takes less than 5 min.

 

[mrbillbrown]

The biggest problem is my want to be a floorless shelter guy but actually living in central OK. 99% of the time we've got a nice mosquito population. The 1-3 trips in plan to take to CO to chase big game is hard to justify a floorless shelter.

Currently running a Copper Spur 2 and love it. But the lure of the tarp (like the big boys use) is a strong draw.

 

[colonel00]

Bug Bivy? Not as spacious as a nest but then again, in a supertarp (I've never been in one) I have to assume you are pretty cramped anyway. If floorless is a new thing, perhaps look at something a little bigger that will be more comfortable and allow for different options like nests and bivys until you know what you really like. Admittedly, I'm no ounce counter and don't get on the super extreme hunts like some do, but I truly love the Cimarron and don't regret any of it's additional weight. Perhaps a smaller floorless shelter might be a good start if you are by yourself like an LBO or SL3 if you can find one.

 

[InIt2Live]

The biggest problem is my want to be a floorless shelter guy but actually living in central OK. 99% of the time we've got a nice mosquito population. The 1-3 trips in plan to take to CO to chase big game is hard to justify a floorless shelter.

Currently running a Copper Spur 2 and love it. But the lure of the tarp (like the big boys use) is a strong draw.

You bring up the exact reason I bought my Mountain Smith. I wanted to run with the big dogs. Then I found out that I love the floorless, BUT only in situations that require it. If I know I'm going to be tromping through mud for hours, or coming back to camp exhausted and filthy, then I want my floorless to keep from destroying or even dirtying my freestanding tents.

With that said, if the mud isn't going to be too bad, and I'm camping within a mile or so from the truck, then I usually go with a tent. It's nice to put together the 2 poles, slap it all together and be done. With free standing tents, there is little to no bug problems and no staking required (but might still be needed in some situation). Every situation requires different gear for me, so I am glad I own tents and tarps. I could never side with just one or the other!

 

[LostArra]

You bring up the exact reason I bought my Mountain Smith. I wanted to run with the big dogs. Then I found out that I love the floorless, BUT only in situations that require it. If I know I'm going to be tromping through mud for hours, or coming back to camp exhausted and filthy, then I want my floorless to keep from destroying or even dirtying my freestanding tents.

With that said, if the mud isn't going to be too bad, and I'm camping within a mile or so from the truck, then I usually go with a tent. It's nice to put together the 2 poles, slap it all together and be done. With free standing tents, there is little to no bug problems and no staking required (but might still be needed in some situation). Every situation requires different gear for me, so I am glad I own tents and tarps. I could never side with just one or the other!

This is good advice.
I'm no expert but have camped with tarp and tent. Nothing works well in every situation.

Bill: could you just pitch the fly+poles only of your Copper Spur to have a floorless shelter with two doors? I would prefer that to a tarp and I have a Super Tarp.

 

[beachbunny]

I just counted how many,tents,tarps and bivys I have. I'm glad I have a sense of humor!!

 

[ohoopee]

I have used a floorless for several years in Georgia and on the barrier islands. I spray it with permethrin prior to trips. Never had a bug issue. Bugs seem to stay in top of shelter and not bother me.

 

[tttoadman]

To go truly floorless with a CS pole and fly, here is what you need. You will need to buy or make the end connections for the pole tips and the buckles to hook the fly to. I have played with this a little bit, but found it to be a PITA.

Plan B: Buy the footprint for the CS2. Cut out all but about an in wide all the way around. Possibly even leave a strip running diagonal across from corner to corner. Double these over and run through a sewing machine to add some strength.

Plan C: Sew in some small(3/8"?) webbing to the webbing on the footprint while it is in the tensioned position. After that is done, cut the footprint out and ta da!! you have a floorless CS2.

What I ultimately want is a bathtub floor just big enough for my bag and pad to be in. I messed with this a little using an old REI tent I had. By the time I was done, It was pretty much as bulky as the CS2 to begin with.

Where I am now...
I plan to leave my CS2 the #$%^ alone and love it the way it is.

I bought a cheap tent that will carry snow load to use in the winter.

I bought a nest to go with my gatewood tarp. I always have my tarp. Now with the nest, I may be able to make it my primary shelter for many of my outings.

Don't know if this is helping anyone, but I thought I would share. I know Charvey ran his CS2 in fly mode. I am not sure if he went without the floor. He may have some pics to show what he ended up doing.

 

[reaper]

Anybody running a nest in their SuperTarp?

Which one? Like it? Hate it? Recommendations?

I need some bug protection for more year round use out of a tarp.

TIA, mrbill

DIY it man...i think you saw my half bug net door on my paratarp?Do you pitch it like a tent or more off the ground?

 

[mrbillbrown]

My super doesn't arrive til Thursday. Just trying to get my head wrapped around the floorless lifestyle. Lol

Yes, I'm inspired by your paratarp net door. If I can't use a Jedi mind trick to have you make me one then I'll probably give it a go.

 

[luke moffat]

Personally I would either use a bivy in the super tarp or run nothing at all. The supertarp sure can be used with a bivy but IMO not worth the trouble.

 

[LostArra]

To go truly floorless with a CS pole and fly, here is what you need. You will need to buy or make the end connections for the pole tips and the buckles to hook the fly to. I have played with this a little bit, but found it to be a PITA.

Plan B: Buy the footprint for the CS2. Cut out all but about an in wide all the way around. Possibly even leave a strip running diagonal across from corner to corner. Double these over and run through a sewing machine to add some strength.

Plan C: Sew in some small(3/8"?) webbing to the webbing on the footprint while it is in the tensioned position. After that is done, cut the footprint out and ta da!! you have a floorless CS2.

What I ultimately want is a bathtub floor just big enough for my bag and pad to be in. I messed with this a little using an old REI tent I had. By the time I was done, It was pretty much as bulky as the CS2 to begin with.

Where I am now...
I plan to leave my CS2 the #$%^ alone and love it the way it is.

I bought a cheap tent that will carry snow load to use in the winter.

I bought a nest to go with my gatewood tarp. I always have my tarp. Now with the nest, I may be able to make it my primary shelter for many of my outings.

Don't know if this is helping anyone, but I thought I would share. I know Charvey ran his CS2 in fly mode. I am not sure if he went without the floor. He may have some pics to show what he ended up doing.

My bad. I saw the Fast Fly option and did not realize you had to have a footprint to pitch it.
I used to own a Scarp II (Shires Tarptent) and you could easily make it floorless.

 

[mrbillbrown]

I've got the CS2 footprint for my CS2 but hadn't really considered using it as a floorless option. Doesn't seem as bombproof as the super tarp. Maybe I'll give it a shot and if it works well I'll just return or dump the super. Thanks for all the replies fellas.

 

[luke moffat]

This CS 2 guyed out would be decent in most wind conditions. Granted 95% of my camping do don't need true 4 season robustness.