Kifaru 500 vs 1000

roycer

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I know I will receive negative comments but:
I believe the switch from 1000 to 500 cordura is very cost effective for kifaru.
I realize " the rabbit hole" is towards ultra light gear..
But what about the other half of the populace that required durability over lightness??
I for one would like to see the emrII offered in @ the very least 1000 cordura on the bottom.
Yes, I know there is a double layer of 500..although this 2X layer does not equal the durability of the 1000 cordura.
I do not know where the EMR is designed to compress if 1000 would make this task impossible.., but I dare to venture that that would not be the case..
Personally, after dropping a grand on a backpack, I would like to think I have the best fabric for abrasion resistance, and don't have to worry about where or how I set my pack down.
Once again, personally, I would rather carry the extra weight and have it last the longest.
Any ideas, comments welcome
 

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Did you know you ordered a pack in 500d? Did you a failure that they will not warranty? The switch was discussed at lenght. Welcome to our forum interesting first post

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If you wear it out, they will repair or replace it. So i am unsure of what your concern is. I have both 500 and 1000 in packs and i prefer the 500. I cant imagine wearing it out. And im hard on gear.
 

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If you wear it out, they will repair or replace it. So i am unsure of what your concern is. I have both 500 and 1000 in packs and i prefer the 500. I cant imagine wearing it out. And im hard on gear.

Ditto! Except I'm easy on gear, I'm old!
 
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Would kifaru ever consider making a pre-order available for an emrII made from 1000 cordura?
You could set a minimum amount of buyers to make it profitable and feasible, and if you got the #'s signed up, deposit down, then you could make X amount of these packs??thanks for listening..I would be #1 on pre-order BTW:)
 

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Been using Kifaru gear since 2013 I have had 0 issues with 500d and have tossed my pack around pretty good with some decent weight in it. 500d works well and I have no fear of it ever failing. I guess if you purposely try to wear a hole or destroy something even the 1000d will fail but if you use your pack as any normal hunter would I don't see it happening with the 500d. As others have stated even if you did end up damaging the material in someway shape or form Kifaru will take good care of you. That is why they are so successful and why their packs are built to last they back whatever they make 100%. There maybe situations you will need to pay for repairs but any normal use wear will be covered by them. Welcome to Rokslide.
 

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Having used Kifaru for ~15 years and having experienced that the wear from the ground usually affects the frame (not the bag), I am going to suggest Kifaru knows what it is doing by using 500D.
 

William Hanson (live2hunt)

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Would kifaru ever consider making a pre-order available for an emrII made from 1000 cordura?
You could set a minimum amount of buyers to make it profitable and feasible, and if you got the #'s signed up, deposit down, then you could make X amount of these packs??thanks for listening..I would be #1 on pre-order BTW:)
I believe they will take group orders on specialty items but you would need to contact Aron about the details on that. I've seen very few requests for 1000d, you're the second in fact.
 

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Kifaru is a legend when it comes to designing and making hunting/military packs. 1000D is rarely necessary and usually reserved for a few select military applications. 500D offers more than enough durability for hunters around the globe.

Financially speaking, the price is a minimal difference. Rockywoods is offering 500D for $11.69 and 1000D for $12.49 (coated) per yard. That is less than a dollar difference per yard.

If you are dead set on owning a 1000D pack, order a Blacks Ceek Grip Frame/Solution. If you want a custom/tailored pack, contact McHale packs. If those options fail to meet your desires, make your own pack (which will end up being the most expensive and time consuming option).

A more comprehensive list of pack makers:

Time-Tested Legendary Pack Makers:
Barney's Frame Packs
Kifaru
McHale Packs
Mystery Ranch/Dana Design

New-to-the-Game Pack Makers worth considering:
Exo Mountain Gear
Hill People Gear
Kuiu
Seek Outside
Stone Glacier
 

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I know I will receive negative comments but:
I believe the switch from 1000 to 500 cordura is very cost effective for kifaru.
I realize " the rabbit hole" is towards ultra light gear..
But what about the other half of the populace that required durability over lightness??
I for one would like to see the emrII offered in @ the very least 1000 cordura on the bottom.
Yes, I know there is a double layer of 500..although this 2X layer does not equal the durability of the 1000 cordura.
I do not know where the EMR is designed to compress if 1000 would make this task impossible.., but I dare to venture that that would not be the case..
Personally, after dropping a grand on a backpack, I would like to think I have the best fabric for abrasion resistance, and don't have to worry about where or how I set my pack down.
Once again, personally, I would rather carry the extra weight and have it last the longest.
Any ideas, comments welcome
Again, how about you call me and we can discuss your questions.

We sell 40, 500d packs for every one, 1000d.....so making a bunch of 1000d packs probably won't happen at this time.

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