Finally pulled the trigger on a 4 season tent. Bought a Hilleberg nammatj 2 GT from Go Hunt being as i has a bit of points(money) accumilated at the store. Been waiting about 3 or 4 days and see that it was one state away in the ups process and it was damaged. Has been on halt ever since. Contacted UPS and go hunt... Just waiting for an answer.. End of rant