is there a great tutorial on how to sandwich a load between pack&frame. kifaru T2

[realunlucky]

That's a great picture! Made me chuckle. We really do need a thank you button

 

[JeremiahH]

While it is hard to compete with voidecho's artistic abilities. Here is an article with pictures of why the concept of a load shelf is beneficial.

http://stoneglacier.com/load transfer.html

I applaud stone glacier and their gear but I don't think anyone would load a pack like that unless they only had the jansport Luke mentioned, lol

 

[PA 5-0]

If I may, isnt the purpose of a load shelf to #1--add an option of additional cubes to a medium size pack, say a 5200cu.in. and #2--to save the potential bloody mess when stuffing meat inside with all your other gear. I have utilized the shelf on my icon 5200 several times and loved it. Drippy blood just ended up on the back of my pant legs as opposed to all over a pack full of gear. And when strapping it all up nice and tight, the pack felt like one unit, not one hanging on the back of another. FWIW. Dan

 

[muleman]

No worries fellas. I just didn't want the question to come off as a smarta$$ question as can occur on online forums at times.

Colonel00,
No harm, no foul. I saw your question as sincere. I've really been frustrated as of late with all the gear/idea bashing that has been going on (not in this thread). My whole premise is that we should be able to have good discussions without our feelings being hurt. I have been mountain hunting longer than the young members of the forum have been alive. Still, I have learned a ton from others on the forum. I also have changed tactics, gear, and thought processes, for the better, because of the forum.

I have done in the bag and on the shelf. As of right now on the shelf is my prefered way of loading meat. The load carries great, my gear stays cleaner, and the meat is able to cool and breath while being packed. These are my opinions and like Luke said I am just sharing my experiences. Others milage may vary, but the shelf works for me and my style of hunting.

 

[colonel00]

I agree 100%. With that, when you are using the shelf, are you hauling meat bone in or bone out more often? I would assume you would just adjust the "height" if the shelf to accommodate longer Matt bags, correct?

 

[fillthefreezer]

No worries fellas. I just didn't want the question to come off as a smarta$$ question as can occur on online forums at times. I agree as well that everything is personal and I think it also really matters what you are hunting and other factors of the hunt. For instance, when I have had to haul quarters because we were keeping the meat on the bone on an elk or caribou, I found the load sling idea to be not all that bad. Mostly this was because the "meat pack" ran the length of the pack and it would have been awkward to have it sitting up really high and protruding out of the top of the pack. On the flip side, for transporting boned out meat of smaller quantities like a deer, either having the ability to elevate the meat shelf support, as muleman describes, or loading the meat bag in the top of the pack seems to make more sense.

It just struck me that this image, as great as it is, was a little misleading when it shows the placement of the meat at the bottoms of the packs. To me, both images seem to be asking for an uncomfortable haul.

Perhaps this fantastic edit of the image might better show the discussed meat placements?

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colonel, im one of the "in the bag" camp, but thats a little high. think it about keeping it against your thoracic vertebrae. if you get heavy weight up around and above your shoulders it will make you top heavy. too low and it will ride like shit and pull you backward.

i often think many people who prefer the load shelf, havent packed alot of meat, or dont know how to load a pack properly. (not to say all! i can see where at times it would be more convenient)

 

[muleman]

I applaud stone glacier and their gear but I don't think anyone would load a pack like that unless they only had the jansport Luke mentioned, lol

I assume you are refering to the pictures on Stone Glacier's sight that I linked to. Sounds like you and me both would never put all our weight in the bottom of a pack.

In actuality, I'm pretty sure that packs get loaded in all sorts of bad ways. I do have to admit that one time I lashed half of a large bone in mule deer and antlers to the back of the military version of a CamelBak Mule. That was the worst pack out I've ever experienced. It was also the ultimate driving factor for me to try as many high end packs as possible. I am completely satisfied with my current pack stable and with some confidence think I could pack out sasquatch on a shelf if the need arose.

 

[PA 5-0]

............ and with some confidence think I could pack out sasquatch on a shelf if the need arose.

LMAO!!! Classic. And don't think he isn't out there watching us!!

 

[muleman]

LMAO!!! Classic. And don't think he isn't out there watching us!!

And you thought a goat cape or sheep horns rok'd flowing out of a pack. Just wait till you see my pics with a sasquatch cape.

 

[fillthefreezer]

LMAO!!! Classic. And don't think he isn't out there watching us!!

i met a bigfoot researcher a couple weeks ago. he was camped near us a we shared a fire. he kept telling us this! apparently we were in a " hot spot for bigfoot activity"

 

[Yellowknife]

I am completely satisfied with my current pack stable and with some confidence think I could pack out sasquatch on a shelf if the need arose.

I can verify that.





Yk

 

[muleman]

Boom,

Sorry for hijacking your thread and introducing bigfoot into the mix.

I agree 100%. With that, when you are using the shelf, are you hauling meat bone in or bone out more often? I would assume you would just adjust the "height" if the shelf to accommodate longer Matt bags, correct?

Colonel00,

I'm really trying to bone out everything now days. Last year I did pack out both bone in and boned out meat. Here are some pictures of both. Bone in bull elk quarter and 45# of boned out mountain goat. Either way, I try to adjust the load, to be in the high center of my back with the shelf and straps.




YK,

Dude you are living the dream!

 

[boom]

Boom,

Sorry for hijacking your thread and introducing bigfoot into the mix.




Colonel00,

I'm really trying to bone out everything now days. Last year I did pack out both bone in and boned out meat.

Here are some pictures of both. Bone in bull elk quarter and 45# of boned out mountain goat.


Either way, I try to adjust the load, to be in the high center of my back with the shelf and straps.


YK,

Dude you are living the dream!

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Serious? You made it GOOD. Haha.

 

[JeremiahH]

I assume you are refering to the pictures on Stone Glacier's sight that I linked to. Sounds like you and me both would never put all our weight in the bottom of a pack.

I'm sure their stuff is top notch but the comparison made me chuckle a little. Having that model as conventional pack loading. I think I loaded my old badlands 2200 like that once ha

 

[luke moffat]

HAHA...I love seeing that pic YK!!! You would have a tough time cramming that hide INSIDE any pack other than maybe a Barney's IMO!!!