Is nothing sacred

NUGGET

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If you know about it and someone else knows about it and it gets posted on the internet then how much of a honey hole is it really? There is two people who know about it. The guy posting the spot and the guy mad about it, so how many people really know about this honey hole? The odds would be dozens. I would argue on the contrary that if someone is posting it on the internet it was really never a honey hole to begin with....
 

cdods

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Chances are the game and fish or DWR has the unit name/number. No harm in naming things online. It may be your honey hole but It's unlikely to be a secret. A place you call sakret might be someone else's back up plan.
 

JPD350

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I do agree that there are no honey holes because that concept died with the internet age. It is sad because I lived and hunted when it was very hard to find these pockets be it an area or unit, you had to figure out where to go and physically scout the area without any free help and that is why people were tight lipped about what they had found. Having lived and hunted in both eras and in my opinion pre internet hunting experiences were so much better back then, I don't recall ever being over ran by other hunters.


The internet information highway allows people who would otherwise never be able to hunt an area effectively said area and that wide spread information undoubtedly increases the amount of hunters applying for the unit or area. Unfortunately this is the way it is and complaining about it does nothing but chap your old honey hole, it's best to just move on and adjust.
 
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Gumbo

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Fortunately at this point every drainage/spot has been discussed or filmed so it all becomes noise. Hot spotters jump around looking for the pot of gold, but most don't have the skills to get it done anyway. A real killer gets it done anywhere and adapts by finding new spots or being a better hunter than the rest. Frankly, most hunters aren't even a factor, or serve as pawns to be used in ever-adapting strategies.

But I was bummed when the Eastman's crew filmed an elk hunt in one of my favorite spots and shot a decent bull in literally the same spot I killed one the year before.
 
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I know complaining doesn’t help I’m not saying all spots are secret it just sucks to find a good spot then see a post online and someone is naming specific canyons etc 1 google search brings it all up


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netman

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I love when people talk about the units/drainages after the season like no one will make note or remember.
I love when people give out info. I will say this that I look the places up for something to do but I have found my own places to hunt.
 

Swede

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I worked on the District where Larry D Jones killed his big bull shown on the film Elk Fever. I have heard several people talk about the area I also heard Larry gave up on the unit and started hunting along the coast of Oregon due to over crowding where he had been.
Magazine articles can start a crowd moving in. I do not know about someone blowing your honey hole, except you obviously were not the only one that knew about it.
My advise would be to do the same thing Larry did and keep your mouth shut about where you get anything. Several times over the years I have found hunters sitting in one of my tree stands when I arrived. I have reassured them that it was ok and left. The surest way to convey they idea it is a honey hole is to make a fuss about them being there, when most likely they won't get anything there that afternoon. I do not know how long they stayed, but none ever returned.
 

jmcd22

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On posts like this or other things that can go off the rails, I usually type out what I really want to say and then leave the page without posting. It makes me feel better being able to bitch without starting an argument or pissing off the mods by throwing gasoline on the fire.

I agree with the OP on the title of this thread. It seems as though hunting is no longer sacred (hasn't been for a very long time) but more of a "instant gratification." All the BS excuses that get posted, to me, are worse than just straight up asking for a honey hole (even though I hate that). I fully realize the point of the forum is to talk and help each other out and I'm all for that but there is a right way to do it and there is a...less than ideal way to do it. I just wish there were more people that would see that and help new members but in a way that makes them do the research themselves.
 

2rocky

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Are you kidding?

The best way to hunt Dark timber in Grizzly country is to let the yokels try to still hunt it and let them push the elk past you in the open.

Used to have an elk camp in a roadless area with access from a private ranch. Had a group camp right next to us. We rode up on one of the guys opening morning trying to change his headlamp batteries in the dark. We ere riding horses with no light and he screamed like a little girl when we rode up on him.

Another year a hunter got out ahead of us on the trail (a rare occurance) he went right at the fork, we went left. We found the elk before daybreak and killed at dawn.

Moral: Assume your spot is public knowledge and out hunt the bastards. Let them push the elk to you .
 
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Yep......No such thing as a secret spot anymore. Respect for the land and laws is non existent too. Litter in the wilderness, atvs, utvs and pickups drive right past closed to motorized vehicles signs like they don't even exist. My secret spot was overrun last year. That's why we have plan A, B, C, D etc.......
 
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