IPhone 15 or In reach ....

[remnnate]

Verizon is supposed to have the capability later this fall as well. Similar to upgrading your iPhone you will need a compatible Android phone. It appears to be normal texting and not just emergency texting. Search "Verizon and Sklyo teaming". There are quite a few articles on it. I'm not sure a backcountry emergency situation is where I want to be a pioneer on the bleeding edge of a new technology, but I am hopeful of the future and promise if it proves itself.

 

[AkTroutdoors]

Super excited about sattelite texting. You can still send emergency texts to EME without worrying if the person has a new iphone. Pumped to have everything on my phone including mapping without having to carry extra gadgets. If you loose your phone or break it that’s another story.

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

I would be reluctant to have the confidence in the waterproofness of an I phone at this point. I interviewed the survivors of this case. https://www.fox10tv.com/2024/05/27/...water-hours-before-rescue-off-dauphin-island/ They all had waterproof phones. Only one worked after they went in the water, and that was only for a short time.

I have found that the touch screen on my phone doesn't work well when my fingers are cold or wet. That may or may not matter to you. The technology is getting closer to being reliable enough for me, but it's not there yet. In the interim, my PLB hits the back country with me.

 

[LoH]

I would be reluctant to have the confidence in the waterproofness of an I phone at this point. I interviewed the survivors of this case. https://www.fox10tv.com/2024/05/27/...water-hours-before-rescue-off-dauphin-island/ They all had waterproof phones. Only one worked after they went in the water, and that was only for a short time.

I have found that the touch screen on my phone doesn't work well when my fingers are cold or wet. That may or may not matter to you. The technology is getting closer to being reliable enough for me, but it's not there yet. In the interim, my PLB hits the back country with me.

So you interviewed them, did you also write the article you linked to? If so, I bow down to you for the absolute brilliance of the opener:

MOBILE, Ala. - As he was treading water for hours in the Gulf of Mexico on Saturday, Biloxi resident Easton Barrett made a short video on his cell phone.

“Well, the boat sank,” he said. “No bueno. Love y’all.”


That is downright British levels of understatement. Next time I have the occasion where I might normally deploy “FUBAR” I think I might instead say: Well, the boat sank. No bueno.

Its more syllables but way better IMO.

So this thread went from the nitty gritty of satellite messaging to more of a values discussion at some point. My comment is as an amateur experimental archaeologist, I am sensitized to the fact that over our history we’ve shaped our tools, and then inevitably our tools shape us. I’m no luddite, but I try to stay alert to how my tools are shaping me and whether I like or value it. For instance, I notice when I use sat-nav while driving I don’t retain the knowledge of how to retrace my steps and usually would not be able find my way between those locations again, sans sat-nav. Whereas prior to the ubiquity of sat-nav I could usually retain how to get between places after traveling that path once. My attention is just applied differently.

I know which one I prefer. Couldn’t cite studies that “prove” anything about it on a values- or concrete level (like it’s as beneficial as Vitamin C or something) And I’ll still absolutely use sat-nav in certain scenarios. While I try to also remember there was “Life before (X)” and we had robust low-technology techniques for not-dying-prematurely then, too.

Please don’t flame me. I’m just saying what I prefer and why.

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

So you interviewed them, did you also write the article you linked to? If so, I bow down to you for the absolute brilliance of the opener:

MOBILE, Ala. - As he was treading water for hours in the Gulf of Mexico on Saturday, Biloxi resident Easton Barrett made a short video on his cell phone.

“Well, the boat sank,” he said. “No bueno. Love y’all.”


That is downright British levels of understatement. Next time I have the occasion where I might normally deploy “FUBAR” I think I might instead say: Well, the boat sank. No bueno.

Its more syllables but way better IMO.

So this thread went from the nitty gritty of satellite messaging to more of a values discussion at some point. My comment is as an amateur experimental archaeologist, I am sensitized to the fact that over our history we’ve shaped our tools, and then inevitably our tools shape us. I’m no luddite, but I try to stay alert to how my tools are shaping me and whether I like or value it. For instance, I notice when I use sat-nav while driving I don’t retain the knowledge of how to retrace my steps and usually would not be able find my way between those locations again, sans sat-nav. Whereas prior to the ubiquity of sat-nav I could usually retain how to get between places after traveling that path once. My attention is just applied differently.

I know which one I prefer. Couldn’t cite studies that “prove” anything about it on a values- or concrete level (like it’s as beneficial as Vitamin C or something) And I’ll still absolutely use sat-nav in certain scenarios. While I try to also remember there was “Life before (X)” and we had robust low-technology techniques for not-dying-prematurely then, too.

Please don’t flame me. I’m just saying what I prefer and why.

I didn't write that. I run an official CG Facebook page and wrote and ran a feature article there. It's fascinating how well a full length feature article can play on Facebook which is a sound bite society. This one reached 310,000 boaters and garnered 33,000 engagements. https://www.facebook.com/groups/329194437713851/search/?q=dauphin

 

[BBob]

 

[mtwarden]

^ Good video; thanks for posting it.

I'm keeping mine (inReach Mini) for awhile, but will upgrade to an iPhone 16 as I'm up for a new phone.

PLB + iPhone as he mentions is not a bad option, something I might look into in the future.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

Iphone 14 or newer with the new IOS 18 will allow satellite messaging and in Q1 of next year will allow calling and internet. It’s free for now, but when the full services are rolled out will be $60/month.

 

[mtwarden]

Iphone 14 or newer with the new IOS 18 will allow satellite messaging and in Q1 of next year will allow calling and internet. It’s free for now, but when the full services are rolled out will be $60/month.

Do you have a link where you found pricing? Is that on top of what a person is already paying?


Guessing emergency messaging is still free though.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

Do you have a link where you found pricing? Is that on top of what a person is already paying?


Guessing emergency messaging is still free though.

That is on top of what you are already paying. I believe you can turn it on and off like the inreach plans. I’ll see if I can find the article. I also confirmed it with the verizon store. I took a deep dive into this hoping IOS 18 would be rolled out before I left on my alaskan moose hunt.

 

[Contendi]

That is on top of what you are already paying. I believe you can turn it on and off like the inreach plans. I’ll see if I can find the article. I also confirmed it with the verizon store. I took a deep dive into this hoping IOS 18 would be rolled out before I left on my alaskan moose hunt.

That would be a game changer. I’d only need the service for 3-4 months out of the year too.

 

[brando20]

Either way seems like an inreach would be a good idea for a backup.

 

[Tilggie]

This is one less device needed unless you are hunting alone then a backup would be needed. If you're with a buddy I would think two phones would be sufficient.

 

[MOTOJOE]

I will go with both. suck to have one not work.

 

[Prest0npage]

iPhones can currently only send an emergency satellite text with coordinates to emergency services to respond with SAR.

 

[BBob]

iPhones can currently only send an emergency satellite text with coordinates to emergency services to respond with SAR.

You’re behind the curve here. Many of the iPhones are capable of sat messaging, people have it and have be using it. My phone has it.

iPhone satellite messaging thread, iOS 18

For those that have access and have used it, what’s been your experience? I used mine for the first time yesterday and it was meh. I had to follow the satellite around with my phone to get one message to send. Took awhile to send it, approximately 5 minutes. If I didn’t regularly adjust my...

rokslide.com

 

[Rotnguns]

Verizon is supposed to have the capability later this fall as well. Similar to upgrading your iPhone you will need a compatible Android phone. It appears to be normal texting and not just emergency texting. Search "Verizon and Sklyo teaming". There are quite a few articles on it. I'm not sure a backcountry emergency situation is where I want to be a pioneer on the bleeding edge of a new technology, but I am hopeful of the future and promise if it proves itself.

Thanks for this information. After reading Verizon's announcement, I think I'll wait to see what they develop this fall before switching to apple.