Interesting wood stove option

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

Saw this on another forum. Anyone ever try something like this? He said it weighs 940 grams with 7" pipe and 800 grams with 4". What would be the cons of this setup?

 

[realunlucky]

What you using that for just heating water? If so there are better smaller designs. If wanting to heat a shelter looks pretty small which means sticks have to be small. That equals more sticks and more work making them small enough to fit

 

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

This one is 26.5 cm long × 16 cm wide, so ya a little small but it could go a little larger too. Yes to heat a megatarp.

 

[cvandervort]

I was thinking of trying that design out as well...
Materials (pans) are cheap. Biggest con for me is the dimensions when packed: doesn't fit easily in a long pocket.

 

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

I was thinking of trying that design out as well...
Materials (pans) are cheap. Biggest con for me is the dimensions when packed: doesn't fit easily in a long pocket.

But it'd fit in the main bag or strapped to the bottom fairly easily.

 

[colonel00]

Or make your own pocket

I agree that the small size would make it a pain to cut wood and constant feeding would get old. My little 12" long DIY stove was awesome this year in Wyoming but even that was a pain to cut sticks down for. I actually just got some parts today to revamp the design a little and hopefully make it easier to assemble with cold hands and it should drop some weight.

Also, that stove is over 2lbs and that is before you add the stove pipe which will add weight quick depending on necessary length. My current setup is 2lbs 10oz with what has to be an 8' pipe I believe as it easily clears my SL5. Maybe 7', I will have to check. Anyway, that is all with stainless steel for the pipe and stove body. I thought about going with titanium but the weight savings just couldn't justify the cost since I already had this stove up and running.

Anyway, if you build it, definitely keep us posted. It is definitely an interesting concept.

 

[dotman]

You ever hear about the "GIF". The stove companies don't make something expensive, they make something practical and then refine it. This looks like a disaster in the making, if you want to try it, cool, if you want to save a few dollars just copy what's out there like a ti- goat cylinder stove.

If it is just to cook keep it simple and reliable, go PR or JB.

 

[squeekieslayer]

^^ grumpy post of the day hahaha

Honestly, it looks like a decent and probably relatively cheap way to build a stove without having to think too hard. This industry is driven by new ideas like this. I am not sure what could happen that would make this a disaster? It is a metal box with a pipe coming out.... just like all the others. Copying existing idea is ok, but doesn't drive new product development.

Joe

 

[dotman]

Haha, yeah I was a tad grumpy last night . When I think disaster I'm mainly not seeing a good way to feed the fire and get it really going. It may not end up being too cheap or lite once you start to modify it and it is tiny but my ti-goat packs smaller. The small door is a concern once a fire is going, probably can keep the entire upper part off until your fire has started but smoke may be an issue doing this and it would be a PIA looking at how small the door is to start a fire with it all buttoned up.

If you do build it keep us posted.

 

[ScottP]

I made one, well actually I made 3 for about $120. I use the same pipe in 3 different stove bodies (these are ~$10/per set from a restaurant supply store). Damper and pipe are from ti-goat. Other hardware from Ace or I had in the garage. I thought I'd have some fun and for that price my wife doesn't notice buying parts vs buying a $250 piece.

Sure, if you're burning it all day you have to collect a lot of small wood, but for a couple hours of heat you need a large handful, maybe the volume of 2 footballs. this little sucker turns my little shelter into a sauna! Filled, it burns for about 30min.

 

[cvandervort]

ScottP...
I gotta talk to you man! Same shelter and same stove I wanted to build, after seeing it on YouTube, that it.
What made you go with symmetrical pans, vs one shallow on the bottom and one tall on top? (Might try this to make feeding the fire easier and for a larger door).
Also, what was the best way you found to pack it?

 

[ScottP]

ScottP...
I gotta talk to you man! Same shelter and same stove I wanted to build, after seeing it on YouTube, that it.
What made you go with symmetrical pans, vs one shallow on the bottom and one tall on top? (Might try this to make feeding the fire easier and for a larger door).
Also, what was the best way you found to pack it?

I have 3 sets of pans. 2 sets are same width and length, so I can go with a shallow on bottom and taller on top, or 2 shorts or 2 talls. I have the bigger 1/3 size trays in 6" depth, but haven't cut the holes in those yet as I don't have a shelter that requires that much stove (future expansion). The small, short trays stack together and fit easily with the stovepipe in an old sleeping bag stuff sack. Drop in pack or strap to outside pretty easy.

 

[squeekieslayer]

whats the weight on that baby? I like the idea of the shorter one on the bottom and larger on top.... mostly because it may make it easier to start. Looks great

Joe

 

[ScottP]

whats the weight on that baby? I like the idea of the shorter one on the bottom and larger on top.... mostly because it may make it easier to start. Looks great

Joe

If I recall correctly, its just under 3lbs with small pans, 7' of SS pipe, hardware, legs, and bag. I think I weighed my moutaninsmith LT(+ stove jack) + stove kit right around 5lb. Could shave weight on the legs, but I just used some threaded rod which was easy to get at hardware store, so room for improvement there. Not bad for about $260 invested in the whole shebang.

I got the 7' stove pipe so I could potentially use it in a small tipi someday. You probably only need 5' or so for the LT shelter. So some more weight savings there.

 

[squeekieslayer]

thanks... I may have to try it out, I really like building stuff and to me it seems like that thing will be simple to set up even with freezing hands compared the roll up kind. I have a ti goat vertex 6.5 and i bet that will heat that baby in a hurry

Joe

 

[squeekieslayer]

Why do you need legs? Couldn't you just set it on the ground?

Joe

 

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

Why do you need legs? Couldn't you just set it on the ground?

Joe

I was wondering the same

 

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

Why can't aluminum be uses for stoves and stove parts?

 

[colonel00]

It will melt or at least warp. Also be wary of galvanized metal. It can release some nasty gases if hot enough

 

[johnnylaw]

I have been researching the stoves myself and I don't understand why they are not bottomless. I would think you could build the fire right on the ground and contain it and the smoke with a floorless stove???