Instinctive shooting youtube

[aboyett]

Here is a great video!

 

[Beendare]

Thats the guy for advice? Look at that arrow......

 

[aboyett]

That was just the picture. In the video he talks about instinctive shooting style. Did you watch it?

 

[bowhuntercoop]

I watched the first minute….

Instinctive is a joke imo. It’s not real. You’re subconsciously aiming. Wither its gaping at the riser, the arrow, the target….its a form of aiming.

Rod Jenkins and numerous other guys have proved instinctive isn’t real.

Go into a totally dark range, put a laser on the target at say 15-20 yards. Have the instinctitive shooter shoot in the dark. It’s comical to say the least.

Fixed crawl, gapping at the bow or target, string walking, so many more accurate ways to hunt imo.

I’m blessed to have a very short draw length and I anchor extremely high. Makes for a nice 25 yard point on, so from 0-30 yards the tip of the arrow is always on the animal. It’s a bullet proof set up. Set the aim, then forget it, work through the shot process.

I can anchor corner of my mouth like alot of guys and have a 40 yard point on for follow up shots, elk, mule deer at the 35-50 yard range. Works extremely well.

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

Youtube is pretty full of fluff. The same videos from a million different content creators, all of them saying something to the effect of "Theres lot's of videos on this, but here's why mine is special!".

Instinctive aiming as a 25 minute video is hilarious. It's really a simple process. You go shoot a million arrows until you get pretty good at hitting the middle. Then you realize gap shooting is more accurate and you switch.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

Youtube is pretty full of fluff. The same videos from a million different content creators, all of them saying something to the effect of "Theres lot's of videos on this, but here's why mine is special!".

Instinctive aiming as a 25 minute video is hilarious. It's really a simple process. You go shoot a million arrows until you get pretty good at hitting the middle. Then you realize gap shooting is more accurate and you switch.

I went full retard and just use a super high anchor…use the arrow like a shotgun. Even this dumb redneck manages to knock down a dozen or so critters a year using that method. Pure caveman style lol.

 

[Wilderlife]

Something else you can try to help aiming if the tiller of you bow can handle it is use a crawl. When I anchor under the nock and at the corner of my mouth, most of my setups are around a 30 metre point on. It's good to know this for a longer follow up or similar, but moer often than not lately I'm using a crawl that's around 20-24 metres, and it usually means I just get inside the range of the point on for the crawl and I have the top of the arrow floating on the bottom edge of the vitals.

I've tried instinctive shooting briefly and it was awful. If someone people get to a point where they can be gap-stinctive, that's fantastic. I wish I could do that at times, but it just doesn't work for me, and working towards it almost seems pointless when I can shoot well enough when I aim.

 

[BWSmith]

How do you gap shoot on moving targets?

20 or so years ago...I modified a med priced clay pigeon thrower to launch sheet rock mud, bucket lids. It'll sling them about 75 to almost 100 yards. Still have it. It's foot pedal operated. Meaning I know exactly when it fires, vs someone else lighting it off with the pull command.... even though we do that as well.

If you're not getting the shot loosed within the first 20 yards... well,good luck. Obviously these are flu flu's. I had 2 dz and can avg close to 20 hits out of 24 shots. Bows need to be fast.

Much like shotguns... aiming is not the way. It is straight up instinctive.

 

[Beendare]

Fred Asbell used to preach this instinctive aiming with a hunched over posture.
It works with a lot of practice and very short shots but there are far better ways to shoot more accurately.

I shot that way for awhile when I started as I liked Asbells stories. After missing a 140 class buck at about 25y- twice I figured out I needed some sort of reference. That and shooting a bunch of tournaments where the Instinctive guys just got spanked by the Gap guys- it wasn't even close.

I shoot a combination of Gap, Peripheral vision and instinctive letting my subconscious hold that gap once I'm focused on the spot. .

 

[BWSmith]

Was at the Baltimore trad shoot last weekend. We shot a nighttime coon shoot Saturday night. I was shooting "groups" in complete darkness.

So that's another question for gap shooters... can you,or do you shoot at night?

I'm 70, and been building/shooting trad for 50+ years. Got a nice arse 3D range in the woods behind our shop. 16% body fat and shoot a metric chit ton of arrows.

 

[North of 60]

In my experience shooting instinctively is a combination of innate talent (at least some) and lots and lots of practice (more so) at unknown distances in various amounts of light and angles/elevations.

For me it is has always been more fun and much quicker than trying to consciously aim.

I see it as being very similar to throwing...there is no aiming. Know what your target is and let your brain just do it. And some will innately throw better than others.

For those with more of a knack for it, instinctive shooting just works, and for others, other methods work better for them.

Not a one size fits all thing is my point, and do what works for you as an individual.

 

[2Stamp]

Was at the Baltimore trad shoot last weekend. We shot a nighttime coon shoot Saturday night. I was shooting "groups" in complete darkness.

So that's another question for gap shooters... can you,or do you shoot at night?

I'm 70, and been building/shooting trad for 50+ years. Got a nice arse 3D range in the woods behind our shop. 16% body fat and shoot a metric chit ton of arrows.

I have absolutely zero reason to shoot a bow at night. So no, I don't, probably can't, shoot at night. Its a parlor trick IMO. But people like to have fun with it I guess.

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

Was at the Baltimore trad shoot last weekend. We shot a nighttime coon shoot Saturday night. I was shooting "groups" in complete darkness.

So that's another question for gap shooters... can you,or do you shoot at night?

I'm 70, and been building/shooting trad for 50+ years. Got a nice arse 3D range in the woods behind our shop. 16% body fat and shoot a metric chit ton of arrows.

If I’m shooting at night it’s on pigs or rabbits. And in either case I’ll have some form of bow light. If you are shooting in complete darkness how do you see your target? If you can see the target I’m gonna suggest you can see your riser even
If you don’t know it.

 

[BWSmith]

The "rules" for coon shoots originally was a 2 cell maglight,with reflective tacks in the coon target's eyes. We did that for 20 years or so. In which case yes,gap shooters can hang with the instinctive guys IF they have VG ranging skills. To be fair though,these shoots kept yardage fairly consistent. So slight advantage to instinctive because of the limits? of the lighting.

Then,folks started turning the light off. Which is how I prefer it. I use a wee bit more powerful light... Hitachi work light,probably about like a 3 or 4 cell maglight. Have another shooter light the target,shooter is nocked with arrow pointed 45* down.... shooter then says "off" and light goes out.

Up to the shooter as to the process or timing at that point. Ranges up to about 25 yards. Once you get the hang of it.... it will flat out identify any and all breakdowns in your process and/or form. This past weekend my Gdaughter and I both saw our night groups consistently low. It was after 3 full days of shooting though. Neither of us are over bowed... she's 32# @27... I was shooting 40 @28. Her dad,my oldest has a red-light on his night bow and honestly wasn't keeping up with me. Much more spray and pray.... and still having fun.

We were shooting with a Korean guy using traditional to his culture bow,and technique. He had lighted knocks and also preferred no light. He was chatting about him and his buddies doing a LOT of night shooting searching (I'm surmising) for purity in the zen sense. I out shot him too... but he gets VG respect for his alignment. Which apparently is a huge foundation in Korean archery.

 

[BWSmith]

If I’m shooting at night it’s on pigs or rabbits. And in either case I’ll have some form of bow light. If you are shooting in complete darkness how do you see your target? If you can see the target I’m gonna suggest you can see your riser even
If you don’t know it.

Don't have to use a light....

Put a lit candle at 18 yards right in front of target on a pitch black night. I'll hit it within a cpl arrows. It helps with focus but since you now have a fixed focus point you're not gonna expose as many breakdowns as the no light method.

 

[GLB]

People get wrapped up in this for some reason. It seems to me you are either a conscious aimer or a subconscious aimer
I use the term gapstintive to describe what I do. It’s never a hard focus on the aim/arrow. In fact every animal I shot inside of 15 yards I had no clue where my arrow/aim was, but 20 and out I seem to recall the aim/arrow.

 

[tater]

If you truly believe you are an instinctive shooter, wear an eye-patch on your dominant eye and see how that works out.

 

[Tegr0429]

I watched the first minute….

Instinctive is a joke imo. It’s not real. You’re subconsciously aiming. Wither its gaping at the riser, the arrow, the target….its a form of aiming.

Rod Jenkins and numerous other guys have proved instinctive isn’t real.

Go into a totally dark range, put a laser on the target at say 15-20 yards. Have the instinctitive shooter shoot in the dark. It’s comical to say the least.

Fixed crawl, gapping at the bow or target, string walking, so many more accurate ways to hunt imo.

I’m blessed to have a very short draw length and I anchor extremely high. Makes for a nice 25 yard point on, so from 0-30 yards the tip of the arrow is always on the animal. It’s a bullet proof set up. Set the aim, then forget it, work through the shot process.

I can anchor corner of my mouth like alot of guys and have a 40 yard point on for follow up shots, elk, mule deer at the 35-50 yard range. Works extremely well.

Preach dawg