Idaho Mule Deer Propsals-public comment opp closes 2/23/25

[robby denning]

Idaho Mule Deer Proposals: You got 4 days!

Robby hosts David Vedder of the Southeast Idaho Mule Deer Advisory Group. David explains the Idaho Mule Deer proposals they want to send to the Idaho Fish and Game commission

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[realunlucky]

Doing the same thing yields the same results.

If the new variable doesn't produce the desired result- collect as much data as possible and simply pivot by replacing that variable.

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[flyfisher117]

If the changes are made, how hard is it to change back? Would it just be another year, another comment period?

 

[BennyBeaver]

Good podcast on the mule deer committee. I put in my comments on the Fish and Game proposal section.
Even though I don't hunt the east side of the state I think it's a good idea to try the muzzleloader seasons and
see how it turns out. Maybe we can have more muzzleloader hunt opportunity through out the state.

 

[robby denning]

Good podcast on the mule deer committee. I put in my comments on the Fish and Game proposal section.
Even though I don't hunt the east side of the state I think it's a good idea to try the muzzleloader seasons and
see how it turns out. Maybe we can have more muzzleloader hunt opportunity through out the state.

thanks for participating in the discussion and letting F&G know what you think *fist bump emoji!

 

[robby denning]

If the changes are made, how hard is it to change back? Would it just be another year, another comment period?

yes, he talked about the committee hoping we could run the seasons at least two managment cycles, so 4 years total.

this would help get better data and possibly smooth out other influences like favorable/unfavorable weather, hunter migration in and out, etc.

but yes, it would be on the table every two years for discussion of continuance/discontinuance

 

[flyfisher117]

yes, he talked about the committee hoping we could run the seasons at least two managment cycles, so 4 years total.

this would help get better data and possibly smooth out other influences like favorable/unfavorable weather, hunter migration in and out, etc.

but yes, it would be on the table every two years for discussion of continuance/discontinuance

Ah I missed that. My Spotify skipped quite a bit of the deer discussion somehow.

 

[SpotNStalker]

Thanks a bunch for getting this episode out. It was fun to chat mule deer, and hopefully a bunch more people jump on and check out the proposals and provide feedback!

 

[robby denning]

Thanks a bunch for getting this episode out. It was fun to chat mule deer, and hopefully a bunch more people jump on and check out the proposals and provide feedback!

is that you David?

 

[Bob b]

Thank you Robby for helping explain to people how important it is to save our “general seasons”. Waiting years to hunt is not a good solution.

 

[robby denning]

Thank you Robby for helping explain to people how important it is to save our “general seasons”. Waiting years to hunt is not a good solution.

 

[TButtars]

Really good informative podcast. I had the question on why not open sight rifle seasons but makes sense the legal wording is not put into place to allow that to happen. I love that Idaho is trying something besides cutting tags or going to a draw. What would be really cool is to see is the draw go away and instead go to general season open sights rifle hunt. If we went to 70 76 78 all general season open sight rifle hunts it would displace everyone who is willing to take off the scope and provide more opportunities. I don’t think 70, 78 is growing the caliber of deer everyone hoped for with it being in the draw. I personally think open sight rifle seasons are the way to go. I don’t see youth or even the average Idaho deer hunter who hunts 4 days willing to quite go fully muzzleloader. I don’t know just some thoughts…… Im very open to trying something besides cutting tags or going to draw.

 

[willfrye027]

Submitted my comments!

Just a reminder you can comment on ALL of the proposals. I opposed a tag reduction in a different area..having just hunted there and had a great hunt, I don’t understand what they are trying to fix.

 

[robby denning]

Really good informative podcast. I had the question on why not open sight rifle seasons but makes sense the legal wording is not put into place to allow that to happen. I love that Idaho is trying something besides cutting tags or going to a draw. What would be really cool is to see is the draw go away and instead go to general season open sights rifle hunt. If we went to 70 76 78 all general season open sight rifle hunts it would displace everyone who is willing to take off the scope and provide more opportunities. I don’t think 70, 78 is growing the caliber of deer everyone hoped for with it being in the draw. I personally think open sight rifle seasons are the way to go. I don’t see youth or even the average Idaho deer hunter who hunts 4 days willing to quite go fully muzzleloader. I don’t know just some thoughts…… Im very open to trying something besides cutting tags or going to draw.

thanks for sharing, make sure you vote. They need to hear from you!

Southeast Region Deer Proposals | Idaho Fish and Game

and @willfrye027 is right, you can access statewide proposals on that page too

 

[idelkslayer]

Good discussion. And I can second David's recommendation to read through the meeting meetings of the committee, there is a lot of good context and biological information there.

I really appreciated Robby bringing out the latest F : D ratios. That is great news for the future and that is what will put more bucks on the mountain. Just a couple years of that kind of growth will make a huge difference in the deer population, and consequently, the buck population and age class.

Robby and David hit on a lot of the reasons why I think that Idaho has a great hunting season structure. General seasons are great. I can hunt every year and learn an area. Hard work can produce results as opposed to waiting years to luck out in a drawing. I'd rather work hard, and hunt every year to kill a big buck every 3-4 years, than wait every 3-4 years for the chance to hunt a big buck.

The proposed muzzleloader seasons in unit 76 and 73A will be an interesting experiment. I just don't think it is necessary. With 80:100 fawn to doe ratio the herd is on its way up. Hunter numbers are already naturally down. A couple more years of mild winter and good spring/summer moisture and we'll see big gains in numbers of deer and age class of bucks. That said, I much prefer the proposed muzzleloader seasons to any kind of limited entry solution. And I clicked "support with concerns" to say what I typed above.

 

[robby denning]

Good discussion. And I can second David's recommendation to read through the meeting meetings of the committee, there is a lot of good context and biological information there.

I really appreciated Robby bringing out the latest F : D ratios. That is great news for the future and that is what will put more bucks on the mountain. Just a couple years of that kind of growth will make a huge difference in the deer population, and consequently, the buck population and age class.

Robby and David hit on a lot of the reasons why I think that Idaho has a great hunting season structure. General seasons are great. I can hunt every year and learn an area. Hard work can produce results as opposed to waiting years to luck out in a drawing. I'd rather work hard, and hunt every year to kill a big buck every 3-4 years, than wait every 3-4 years for the chance to hunt a big buck.

The proposed muzzleloader seasons in unit 76 and 73A will be an interesting experiment. I just don't think it is necessary. With 80:100 fawn to doe ratio the herd is on its way up. Hunter numbers are already naturally down. A couple more years of mild winter and good spring/summer moisture and we'll see big gains in numbers of deer and age class of bucks. That said, I much prefer the proposed muzzleloader seasons to any kind of limited entry solution. And I clicked "support with concerns" to say what I typed above.

thanks man!

Not sure how anyone could've missed it, but Rokslide's a big place so if you did. Idelkslayer had a discussion going on the MD forum before this episode came out. Good discussion over there too if you wanna read more on it, including some good actual data

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[WRO]

Really good informative podcast. I had the question on why not open sight rifle seasons but makes sense the legal wording is not put into place to allow that to happen. I love that Idaho is trying something besides cutting tags or going to a draw. What would be really cool is to see is the draw go away and instead go to general season open sights rifle hunt. If we went to 70 76 78 all general season open sight rifle hunts it would displace everyone who is willing to take off the scope and provide more opportunities. I don’t think 70, 78 is growing the caliber of deer everyone hoped for with it being in the draw. I personally think open sight rifle seasons are the way to go. I don’t see youth or even the average Idaho deer hunter who hunts 4 days willing to quite go fully muzzleloader. I don’t know just some thoughts…… Im very open to trying something besides cutting tags or going to draw.

There are big deer in 78, I’ve spent the last 3 years in there, the winter kill was horrendous, that being said we still found a buck over 190 this year. Prior to the winter kill I saw several bucks in the 190-210 range. Most of the deer hunters who drew tags that I interacted with were just there to kill a deer, not chase big deer.

The stark difference in quality and deer seen between 77/75 vs 78 are huge.

 

[robby denning]

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The stark difference in quality and deer seen between 77/75 vs 78 are huge.

Yes, agreed and the crowd I know down there saw the decrease in buck quality/hunt quality begin with 78 going limited quota and displacing the 78 hunters. Not to mention people doing research and seeing that 78 is LQ and figure when they don't draw, they'll check out 77/78s common border. It just shined a light on the whole area.