I want your thoughts. 2019 trip

Lambchop

Lil-Rokslider
Joined
Dec 3, 2017
Messages
229
Location
Ohio
Hey all,

My father and I are new to the western style hunting, elk in particular. We took a trip this past season to Montana for the general firearms season. Hunted two units, found some elk but came home empty handed. We are looking to plan another trip for 2019 for OTC archery elk either back in Montana or Colorado. We have been discussing Colorado at length due to the cheaper price of the license/tag requirements, its also 300-500 mile shorter trip each way depending on the units we decide to hunt (we are from Ohio). Colorado obviously is going to be closer and from my understanding a lot more crowded. Some things I am tossing around and wanted to get some input on are below.

I have hunted Montana and have seen some land (not a lot) in a few of the units. If we decided Colorado we are considering a scouting trip this year end of May early June. Obviously I will need to buy maps, a gps chip, food for the trip, our travel expenses and do a lot of time behind a computer to gain some knowledge. All of the prior aren't a huge deal but can get expensive so that leads me to my biggest question. Will the money/time spent to go scout be worth it a year in advanced? I know learning terrain is important. All hunters know just because you have seen the land it won't necessarily make you more successful. Things like burns, dry conditions, and other outside factors play a role in the next/current years hunting. Would that money be better spent somewhere else like in some gear upgrades (I have already started some).


Is Colorado really the crowded?

Do they really have as many elk as they say in Colorado?

Decide to hunt Colorado and take the trip to scout a year ahead?

Hunt Colorado but go in blind like most other people and spend the money elsewhere?

Head back to Montana in 2019 although its a little less friendly on the wallet?

I want to hear all your opinions on these things as well as stuff I may have overlooked.

Thanks Alan
 
What is least expensive?

Option 1: Hunt Montana with no scouting trip because you already went this past year.

Option 2: Scout and Hunt Colorado.

Those would be my two options. I do not like to go into an area without putting boots on the ground first (minimum of 2 days). There are many things I don't like doing during hunting season, because it takes away from my precious time actually hunting. Finding where roads are and if they will be accessible or not, timing how long I have to walk in the dark to get to where I want to be, and potential camp locations are some of the things I don't really want to waste time with while I'm hunting if I can avoid it.

Due to a crazy summer I was able to spend 30 minutes with boots on the ground in one spot for a hunt this fall. Not much time at all, but even with that time I was able to find a base camp location. Ended up being successful, so it is possible, but I prefer to scout an area before hunting it.
 
Taylor,

You pretty much hit my options on the head. Not having boots on the ground in Montana prior to the hunt was tough. Anytime you go somewhere you haven't been its always a challenge.

I see you are from Colorado. Whats the hunting pressure like as a whole in the state for a OTC archery unit? I know its going to vary year to year and unit to unit. Any units you would consider in particular? Not looking for your magic spot but any help would be appreciated. We can be truck based and spike out from that location but we also have the means to spend 6 days away if needed.

Thanks
 
I see you are from Colorado. Whats the hunting pressure like as a whole in the state for a OTC archery unit?
Thanks

It depends on who you talk to, even in the same unit. One guy will have ran into a couple dozen hunters in a weekend, one guy will have barely seen anyone. Generally I would expect pressure and that the pressure will be higher than you would see in Montana. I personally would rather hunt Montana general than Colorado OTC archery but that's just me.
 
There is really not substitute for boots on the ground, but enough time behind a computer screen will give you a pretty good idea. I wasn't able to get out to scout my first year out in MT, but I spend hundreds of hours reviewing maps. Once I arrived, it was like I'd been hunting there for years.

I can't say which option is best for you. I live in ND so MT is much closer for me. I guess for the few hundred extra in gas, I'd go back to the area that you already know. Unless it's where I'm going, then you should go to CO. :D
 
My understanding is that much of Colorado hasn't gotten much snow this winter. That being said, if you go to an area with a lot of snow and/or it gets more in the spring you may not be able to effectively hike/scout in late May/early June.
 
I’d go where you have already been, instead of starting over. I live in Colorado and don’t go out of state to hunt, but that’s me, I don’t see the point of paying NR fees.

I see a ton of rigs and camps where I live, but have only ran into people on a trail.
 
Thanks for all the info.

Everything I have ever heard about Colorado is its full of hunters. Some buddies I know have hunted it and say it looks like a KOA campground in some areas (surly an exaggeration) or maybe not.

ndbwhunter I don't think this will be an issue. I like areas full of bears and not elk lol. We hunted two vastly different units on my trip and gosh that country is beautiful. Being from the mid west and our first trip I think we spent more time admiring the landscapes than hunting.
 
Taylor,

You pretty much hit my options on the head. Not having boots on the ground in Montana prior to the hunt was tough. Anytime you go somewhere you haven't been its always a challenge.

I see you are from Colorado. Whats the hunting pressure like as a whole in the state for a OTC archery unit? I know its going to vary year to year and unit to unit. Any units you would consider in particular? Not looking for your magic spot but any help would be appreciated. We can be truck based and spike out from that location but we also have the means to spend 6 days away if needed.

Thanks

I'm not going to post specific OTC units on the internet. I can however tell you what I look for in a unit.

Things I look for in my specific order
Proximity to home
Size of elk herd (approximate)
Terrain
High bull to cow ratio (approximate)
Access points to road less areas
Number of elk cow tags
Number of deer tags

I like to be as close as possible to the units I hunt so I can scout it more and get there faster. The more elk, the higher probability I'll be able to find them. I also like to hunt certain types of terrain (some people like thick timber for example). If I'm hunting bulls, it's nice to hunt a unit that has more of them. I also like to get away from people, which covers the last three.
 
I'm not going to post specific OTC units on the internet. I can however tell you what I look for in a unit.

Things I look for in my specific order
Proximity to home
Size of elk herd (approximate)
Terrain
High bull to cow ratio (approximate)
Access points to road less areas
Number of elk cow tags
Number of deer tags

I like to be as close as possible to the units I hunt so I can scout it more and get there faster. The more elk, the higher probability I'll be able to find them. I also like to hunt certain types of terrain (some people like thick timber for example). If I'm hunting bulls, it's nice to hunt a unit that has more of them. I also like to get away from people, which covers the last three.

Never would I have expected you to post specific units. One post about a unit and you will see 1,000 new people the next year. Thanks for all the information and tips. Some can be applied and some obviously not as we are 1,000 miles away. Everyone has preferences about what they desire in a hunt. Thats what makes DIY hunting so great. You pick the experience, do the work and hope to be successful.
 
I've only bowhunted CO, and would like to try MT on the future. But here is my take on the pressure. If you car camp, you will see a lot of people. Put some difficult terrain between you and the trail or road, and you probably won't see anyone. Distance doesn't seem to matter, it's all about steep and/or thick terrain. I've only hunted in SW CO, so I suppose it could vary, but I doubt it.

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
 
Great information. It’s nice to hear what everyone thinks and get the opinions of others.

JD619er. Sent you a PM don’t know if you got it or not.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top