How to start a fire in the rain

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The recent sad story of the two young men reminds us of safety, it started some discussion on how to start a fire.

Here’s my two cents on that…



Forget everything you heard about an emergency fire starter kit.

Below is all you need to know, from someone who did it, during a heavy rain.



The scenario;

Temperature was in the 50s, rain and wind solid for days, dead sticks were soaked and spongy.

After hiking for more than 12 hours, nothing was dry anywhere, except for what was in my backpack.

Pitched the tent in the rain, needed to get body core temp up before diving in for the night, it was almost dark.



I built a dome of sticks while rain poured off the brim of my hat, started out not unlike other fire nests, except this one had to work. I only had one kit.

First a robust amount of tiny bird nest size sticks, then the pencil size sticks, and so on, up to wrist size branches.

Everything was dripping wet, but it didn’t matter, there were two keys to making it work.

First was the fire umbrella, for this - Tree bark. A nearby fallen birch tree provided plenty, placed atop the stick pile, rain was diverted.

The second key - my Fire kit, a small hollow area at bottom was left for this.

Under the tree bark umbrella, and out of the rain it lit right up, but it needed to dry out the sticks. Most kits won’t do this.

Smoke and steam followed for 10 minutes before the whole thing went ablaze, then logs got hurled on, with more tree bark in between.

It was still raining hard but the flames grew taller than me, before I stopped adding to it. Mission accomplished!



My fire kit; it resides in a Ziplock bag, is smaller that a golf ball, weighs about an ounce, and will save a life.



Here it is…

A McDonalds ketchup container, filled with curly wood shavings, a candle wick, and just enough wax to hold it all together.

It lights like a candle, and stays lit for a long time, then it turns into a mini blow torch. And my pack, always has one.



When hunting, be prepared, and keep situational awareness foremost, despite the distractions.
 
Could you explain just a little more how you put this together, mostly shavings and then melt the wax into it with the wick? Any particular type of wood shaving?
 
I wad as many cotton balls as will fit in a pill bottle and flood it with Vaseline. Wrap it with wax paper for a rainfly and it burns great. I filled a tiny eye dropper with turbine oil to oil gear and also add to the fire.

The best thing I've added is a soto torch. That thing rocks.

I've spent a couple nights unplanned in my life and my kit has proven itself many times.

The most important thing is to get fire going BEFORE you get into hypothermic trouble. Have 3x more wood than you think you need and get it drying asap.
 
All great ideas. I'll be adding the curly wood shavings to my survival kit. Another great fire starter that saved my ass a few times, is paraffin wax, dryer lint and a paper egg carton for extra large eggs. Pack the depressions in the egg carton with lint, melt the wax and fill the depression with it. They burn really well and for 5+ minutes depending on the lint to wax ratio. I use a lot of lint in mine.
 
I make my fire starter out of cardboard egg container, dryer lint, and melted wax. I use let over trap wax, or left over canning wax. Whatever wax you have on hand.
If use enough wax you don't have to worry about it getting wet. If it does get wet just tear it in half to get to the dry. If you layer the dryer lint well one egg holder will burn for 10 min.
 
My short answer to your post is: trioxane tablets.

But here’s another thought.
If you are already inside your tent, get inside your sleeping bag with all of your wet clothes on, cook a hot meal, drink hot liquids, and go to bed.
The next morning you’ll be bone dry.
You’ll need to dry out your sleeping bag, as all the moisture from your clothes will have pushed out, but you’ll be fine.

Unless you’re in a hot tent, or under a tarp pitched very high, a fire wouldn’t be as useful drying you out as just letting your sleeping bag do it.

Ask me how I know,,,
 
Could you explain just a little more how you put this together, mostly shavings and then melt the wax into it with the wick? Any particular type of wood shaving?
Pine wood shavings. What you would get if you planed a 2x4, also sold for animal bedding.
A good substitute would be arborvitae tree needles.

Stuff the shavings around a waxed Candle wick, in the little paper cup, top off with melted candle wax.

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This is one of my pine sap/wood shaving fire bricks (fire turds). They really go once you get them started and last for a long time. I usually use one (1/2” x 3/4” x 3”) brick to start 7-8 fires in easy conditions. But this thread has me curious to make them smaller and add a wick for an easy light. This one in the photo is the one I leave in my truck, it’s about 15-20 years old has been used 4-5x at this point. The sap makes them waterproof and they last forever.

Collect as much sap as you can find, put it in a thrift store pot on the grill and just add coarse sawdust (think chainsaw sawdust) until you get a good play dough consistency. Let it cool a moment, pour it on some parchment paper and form them into bricks.

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Pine wood shavings. What you would get if you planed a 2x4, also sold for animal bedding.
A good substitute would be arborvitae tree needles.

Stuff the shavings around a waxed Candle wick, in the little paper cup, top off with melted candle wax.



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That’s awesome, those McDonald’s ketchup cups are the perfect size. I’ll definitely be making a few of these.
 
My short answer to your post is: trioxane tablets.

But here’s another thought.
If you are already inside your tent, get inside your sleeping bag with all of your wet clothes on, cook a hot meal, drink hot liquids, and go to bed.
The next morning you’ll be bone dry.
You’ll need to dry out your sleeping bag, as all the moisture from your clothes will have pushed out, but you’ll be fine.

Unless you’re in a hot tent, or under a tarp pitched very high, a fire wouldn’t be as useful drying you out as just letting your sleeping bag do it.

Ask me how I know,,,

Exactly where my mind goes.

I can see the need for a fire if you don't have a sleeping bag and shelter.

But if you do have that, a fire is an external heat source and an inefficient way to raise core body temperature.

Consuming warm food and drink is an internal heat source that will immediately begin raising your core temperature.

Sitting in the rain trying to light sticks on fire seems like a waste of energy to me.
 
I posted this short vid on the Missing Hunter thread...

I keep this windproof lighter in my Emer kit. I just went out and dug it out of my pack.

Ive had it for years, easy to light and very hot.
Sure it may be big, but it will start a fire


 
I posted this short vid on the Missing Hunter thread...

I keep this windproof lighter in my Emer kit. I just went out and dug it out of my pack.

Ive had it for years, easy to light and very hot.
Sure it may be big, but it will start a fire


I use my windproof cigar lighter. I also have a baggie of lint from cloths drier filter, along with a magnesium striker.
 
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