How many hammockers do we have here?

[Jay03]

Just getting into this myself I have a custom hammock made by black willow outdoors it's multicam single but am seriously considering a warbonnet for the double bottom was looking at the blackbird XLC but now you have me wanting to research the ridgerunner. What are the biggest differences?

Tha blackbird is a traditional gathered end hammock with a footbox off to one side. The Ridgerunner is a bridge hammock with spreader bars at the head and foot. A little more weight but very comfortable and a flatter lay in the hammock. I can side sleep in it. Trekking poles can be used as spreader bars to save weight if they are adjustable and have a camera adapter thread in the top of the handle.

 

[zman]

I sleep in a Clark ultralight on archery elk hunts. Actually just slept in it last night... took the kids camping. Definitely not as warm as a tent (I use a Big agnes core pad and a north face 20 degree bag.) But it is comfy and where I hunt you can have a heck of a time finding a flat spot to pitch a tent. I can set up that hammock in 5 minutes in the dark... so I just worry about hunting all day and when it get dark I just find two trees and sleep. Thats the best part. sleep anywhere.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

You were recommending because I usually sleep on my stomach?

Yup.

 

[kyle1112]

Yup.

I've come to the realization that sleeping on my stomach is no good for my back and have been trying my a$$ off to sleep on my back at home like I do in my hammock lol

 

[Where's Bruce?]

I sleep in a Clark ultralight on archery elk hunts. Actually just slept in it last night... took the kids camping. Definitely not as warm as a tent (I use a Big agnes core pad and a north face 20 degree bag.) But it is comfy and where I hunt you can have a heck of a time finding a flat spot to pitch a tent. I can set up that hammock in 5 minutes in the dark... so I just worry about hunting all day and when it get dark I just find two trees and sleep. Thats the best part. sleep anywhere.

You're doing it wrong. A hammock is a much more confined space and easier to make warm because of the restriction of space. You just need to use proper quilts top and bottom. It should be a nice cocoon that is toasty and completely draft free on cold nights. Very doable. It is not the air in your tent that is making the difference, it's your sleep system. Are you relying on a Z-liner? If not, what's your underquilt rated and is it snug to the bottom of your hammock?

 

[twall13]

You're doing it wrong. A hammock is a much more confined space and easier to make warm because of the restriction of space. You just need to use proper quilts top and bottom. It should be a nice cocoon that is toasty and completely draft free on cold nights. Very doable. it is not the air in your tent that is making the difference, it's your sleep system. Are you relying on a Z-liner? if not, what's your underquilt rated and is it snug to the bottom of your hammock?

I agree, when properly equipped it's easy to stay warm in a hammock. It takes a little practice and knowledge but it isn't difficult. Some of the guys on hammock forums take hammock setups to -20 and below with no problem. I'm not equipped for those temps personally but could comfortably take my setup into the teens if need be.

 

[SHTF]

Just dropped the hammer on a Warbonnet Ridge Runner. After a few days of researching it this looks like it will suit me better. One of my complaints was the knee hyper extension in a hammock. The Ridge Runner should solve that. I ordered the Double Layer Multicam RidgeRunner. I am gonna run it with my Blackwillow Outdoors multicam tarp over it. I have a Kifaru Doobie for underneath or run my pad. I talked to Brandon also he said it would fit me great. I dont like the burrito affect of a normal hammock either so this should solve that too.

 

[kyle1112]

You'll have to post pics of your first hang in it

 

[SHTF]

You'll have to post pics of your first hang in it

I can do that.

Here is my Blackwillow Outdoors single layer hammock in Multicam. Great Hammock but no where to put a pad.

 

[Jay03]

You'll like the ridgerunner. I haven't tried all the hammocks out there but this one is the flatest laying hammock I have been in so far. Trying mine this weekend with trekking poles and the adapters instead of the supplied poles.

 

[SHTF]

You'll like the ridgerunner. I haven't tried all the hammocks out there but this one is the flatest laying hammock I have been in so far. Trying mine this weekend with trekking poles and the adapters instead of the supplied poles.

Jay where do I find the Trecking Pole adapter?

 

[Scottiem]

I used a ENO double nest last year for archery elk in CO. My first night using it was my first day hunting. I just half inflated my exped synmat ul7 for bottom insulation. Worked great. I spent 5 nights in it & slept better than I ever have camping...and I'm a side sleeper. This year I purchased a warbonnet blackbird, mambajamba tarp, and yeti under quilt. I haven't got a chance to try it out, but can't wait.

 

[SHTF]

I used a ENO double nest last year for archery elk in CO. My first night using it was my first day hunting. I just half inflated my exped synmat ul7 for bottom insulation. Worked great. I spent 5 nights in it & slept better than I ever have camping...and I'm a side sleeper. This year I purchased a warbonnet blackbird, mambajamba tarp, and yeti under quilt. I haven't got a chance to try it out, but can't wait.

Scott I was looking at the Blackbird but I like the lay flat idea.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

I used a ENO double nest last year for archery elk in CO. My first night using it was my first day hunting. I just half inflated my exped synmat ul7 for bottom insulation. Worked great. I spent 5 nights in it & slept better than I ever have camping...and I'm a side sleeper. This year I purchased a warbonnet blackbird, mambajamba tarp, and yeti under quilt. I haven't got a chance to try it out, but can't wait.

No underquilt to mess with then? Did the mat help you in any way that traditional insulation wouldn't or couldn't?

 

[kyle1112]

I do the same, half inflate it and use silicone on the top and bottom to keep it in place and I sweat I stay so warm

 

[twall13]

I do the same, half inflate it and use silicone on the top and bottom to keep it in place and I sweat I stay so warm

That's one reason, among many, that a lot of people switch to underquilts. Pads tend to create condensation and you wake up wet. The colder it gets the worse the effect is. But if it works for you go with it.

 

[kyle1112]

I can understand for sure, I've slept in 30s but never had any condensation I think because it has been in my bag and not on the outside

 

[twall13]

I can understand for sure, I've slept in 30s but never had any condensation I think because it has been in my bag and not on the outside

It definitely helps with the condensation if you keep the pad in the bag.

 

[Scottiem]

I kept mine on the outside of my sleeping bag and didn't have any problems with condensation. The under quilt is lighter and I don't have to worry about the pad shifting around when I roll over.

 

[zman]

You're doing it wrong. A hammock is a much more confined space and easier to make warm because of the restriction of space. You just need to use proper quilts top and bottom. It should be a nice cocoon that is toasty and completely draft free on cold nights. Very doable. It is not the air in your tent that is making the difference, it's your sleep system. Are you relying on a Z-liner? If not, what's your underquilt rated and is it snug to the bottom of your hammock?

Archery season... I don't gun hunt. Still pretty warm out. I can get by without a quilt. If I was starting from scratch I would get a quilt but already had the 20 degree bag and the insulated big Agnes pad. Underquilt is on my to buy list... but it's a long list.