How many Hammock hunters do we have here?

[Olydog09]

My buddy and I are use them to backpack hunt elk. I have a Warbonnett BlackBird and he has the $25 Yukon Hammock you can buy off woot fairly often. I made sleeping bag underquilts for us to use this year. You can see how toasty my partner is wrapped up in his bear burrito. We used 2 flys to set up a pretty nice area that allowed us to cook and keep our gear under and have room to hang out without getting wet when it rains. The middle picture is a different trip with nice weather and no underquilt.

 

[colonel00]

Would you say the hammock off of Woot is worth the $25 or whatever? I have seen them pop up but never knew anything about them. Not looking for a heavy duty hunting hammock but maybe something to test the waters to see if a hammock is for me. Worst case I could be lazy in the back yard.

 

[Olydog09]

Would you say the hammock off of Woot is worth the $25 or whatever? I have seen them pop up but never knew anything about them. Not looking for a heavy duty hunting hammock but maybe something to test the waters to see if a hammock is for me. Worst case I could be lazy in the back yard.

Absolutely Brad. I have bought 4 from there in total. One for my hunting partner tu use. One as a back up hammock, one as a gift for a friend and one for my nephews to use. If it is for you buy the double layer model without the bug net. It is longer and wider. I bought the bugnet version and it was nice but is shorter than I like for a serious hang. They are a great value for the money no doubt. My partner had never been in a hammock and he was super cozy and warm on our elk trip. He has back/neck issues and the hammock worked great for him. You can see him bundled up in that hammock with my homemade underquilt in the pics. Hammock was $25 and sleeping bag was a Walmart special $25 and they worked great. If you want to test it out that is the hammock to buy. It is equal or better in quality/design than say an Eno double nest that sells for around $70. You will need to get some suspension to hang it with. When I first started I just used some tie down straps without the buckles but you can get a good cheap suspension set up here :http://www.arrowhead-equipment.com/hammock-suspension.html Go with the Marlin Spike/Toggle setup for lightweight or the cinch buckle if you dont mind the weight. Then go to www.hammockforums.com for info on hanging the hammock and other questions. You can also search Youtube for videos by a guy named Shug. He is hilarious and very knowledgeable about hammocks.

Also feel free to pm me with any questions I will help whith what I can.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

I can't go back to the ground after sleeping in my Clark NX-250 but hammocks are not for everybody. It's a rare person that has the patience to even learn the proper methods. Many people try em once, hate em and sell em without ever really learning the tricks to laying flat and experimenting with all the various types. I honestly thought I was alone in hammock camping based on replies to my "Prioritizing" thread recently. While it does take some playing and practice to get the hang of hanging, once you find that sweet spot and get the hammock comfortable, it is more like a bed than any UL ground gear. As for cold, over & underquilts solve that issue. A good tarp enables you to camp in virtually any conditions. I like being away from bugs and snakes and wet hard ground. The bug netting on the Clarks is fantastic. My shelter and sleep system (hammock, insulation (Z-liner), suspension, tarp and Wiggys sleeping bag) weigh 10.2lbs but I sleep great and have many more choices for camping locations. The extra 4lbs doesn't both me...I can actually sleep through the night. A bigger tarp is nice when you're socked in by foul weather though so I carry a Mega Ogee if there's that chance or if it is hot and I want shade. Pics of it on other thread: http://www.rokslide.com/forums/show...Proper-Packing-Necessities-vs-Everything-else

 

[Ironman]

I carry a cheap grand trunk that I changed the suspension on. It weighs in at 9 ounces. It real nice to sit in while making lunch, and then just lay down for that midday nap. I would like to get a warbonnet XLC and make/buy a good under quilt. Warbonnet is made right there in Evergreen Colorado.

 

[HellsCanyon]

You find me a hammock setup that weighs in under 5 lbs and can shed wind/rain reliably and keep me warm down to the teens then I'm game! Until then I gotta stick with my ground setup. I used a hammock back in 2007 and liked it but it just didn't keep me warm in cold temps and the setup was quite a bit more in depth then a floorless/bivy setup I run now.

Mike

 

[Olydog09]

You find me a hammock setup that weighs in under 5 lbs and can shed wind/rain reliably and keep me warm down to the teens then I'm game! Until then I gotta stick with my ground setup. I used a hammock back in 2007 and liked it but it just didn't keep me warm in cold temps and the setup was quite a bit more in depth then a floorless/bivy setup I run now.

Mike

I'll pm ya Mike.

 

[Clarktar]

Hey Olydog, PM me what you send mike as well, his post was exactly what I was thinking..

 

[colonel00]

I am interested as well if you are willing to share. I appreciate the info already provided regarding the hammock on Woot and I will keep my eye out.

 

[Ironman]

You find me a hammock setup that weighs in under 5 lbs and can shed wind/rain reliably and keep me warm down to the teens then I'm game! Until then I gotta stick with my ground setup. I used a hammock back in 2007 and liked it but it just didn't keep me warm in cold temps and the setup was quite a bit more in depth then a floorless/bivy setup I run now.

Mike

It's possible, but no easier than < 5 lbs on the ground. Light weight cost $$, period. More comfort in a hammock I believe. More disconnected with your gear, but it's a give and take, as always. I would like to give hanging a fair chance.

 

[Olydog09]

Alright guys I am going to post up what I sent Mike. I assure you that you can go much lighter than what I have up here if you want to.

Here is what ya need to go lightweight and warm.

HAMMOCK
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/gal...m&g2_itemId=49
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/blackbirds.php

I would go with the Warbonnett BlackBird in double layer it is 10oz heavier than a single layer but if you end up going in extreme cold you can add a foam pad between the two layers to help out.

War Bonnett Black Bird double layer 1.1 material (good to 275lbs) 28 ounces

TARP

http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/gal...&g2_itemId=142
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/tarps.php

For the tarp you can get a Mambajamba or Superfly 13.5ounces and for nasty stuff add 8oz and get the door panels. You can completely shut yourself in that way.

UNDERQUILT

http://www.hammockgear.com/phoenix-40/ 13.5 OUNCES

TOPQUILT
The top quilt will take the place of your sleeping bag.
http://www.hammockgear.com/burrow-20/ 17.3 ounces

Without using the doors that would put you at 4.5lbs including your sleeping bag. (You can also forego the topquilt and just use your own sleeping bag. If it is going to be nasty add the doors and 1/2 lb and that puts you at 5lbs with sleeping bag. Another cool part of the hammock stuff is that it all packs down super small in sil nylon bags so you can save pack space as well.

That was just an example there are many other combos and things you could do to get that system down to 2-3lbs if you wanted to. A great place for info is www.hammockforums.net. If you watch the classifieds you can get deals on the gear as well. If you have any questions give me a shout. Scott

 

[Ironman]

Alright guys I am going to post up what I sent Mike. I assure you that you can go much lighter than what I have up here if you want to.

Here is what ya need to go lightweight and warm.

HAMMOCK
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/gal...m&g2_itemId=49
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/blackbirds.php

I would go with the Warbonnett BlackBird in double layer it is 10oz heavier than a single layer but if you end up going in extreme cold you can add a foam pad between the two layers to help out.

War Bonnett Black Bird double layer 1.1 material (good to 275lbs) 28 ounces

TARP

http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/gal...&g2_itemId=142
http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/tarps.php

For the tarp you can get a Mambajamba or Superfly 13.5ounces and for nasty stuff add 8oz and get the door panels. You can completely shut yourself in that way.

UNDERQUILT

http://www.hammockgear.com/phoenix-40/ 13.5 OUNCES

TOPQUILT
The top quilt will take the place of your sleeping bag.
http://www.hammockgear.com/burrow-20/ 17.3 ounces

Without using the doors that would put you at 4.5lbs including your sleeping bag. (You can also forego the topquilt and just use your own sleeping bag. If it is going to be nasty add the doors and 1/2 lb and that puts you at 5lbs with sleeping bag. Another cool part of the hammock stuff is that it all packs down super small in sil nylon bags so you can save pack space as well.

That was just an example there are many other combos and things you could do to get that system down to 2-3lbs if you wanted to. A great place for info is www.hammockforums.net. If you watch the classifieds you can get deals on the gear as well. If you have any questions give me a shout. Scott

Agreed, although I think you are light on you under quilt and top quilt, but I'm a cold sleeper. I feel hammocks are definitely worth checking out. You can even have a heated shelter. Not the floor space of a tipi or hybrid, but a comfortable alternative none the less.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

Hammockforums has some very accurate comparisons of the types of hammocks, all have their strengths and weaknesses. Read em...I hate being cold and I'm a big guy so the Clark NX250 suits me but the WB is nice too. I just prefer the weathershield for warmth in cold climes. Plus I like how much more open is, a Hennessy felt like a coffin by comparison. Try em and see whatcha like.

 

[HellsCanyon]

Agreed, although I think you are light on you under quilt and top quilt, but I'm a cold sleeper. I feel hammocks are definitely worth checking out. You can even have a heated shelter. Not the floor space of a tipi or hybrid, but a comfortable alternative none the less.

Oooohhhhh....... I wonder if you could have Zpacks or BPWD whip up a Cuben fiber tarp shelter with stove jack for a hammock setup?

Mike

 

[Ironman]

Search you tube for smokehouse shelter. It weighs just under 2 pounds. This will give you an idea for heated hammock shelters.

 

[Olydog09]

Smoke house shelter https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10274

 

[HellsCanyon]

Smoke house shelter https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10274

Gotta be a member to see pictures apparently... I think this is something that is going into the "future wants" category, I find it really easy to keep wanting to try new stuff and systems every year but I really need to just start buying more tags/fuel/food instead! I'm still interested though...

Mike

 

[colonel00]

That smokehouse shelter is pretty cool. Great for solo hunters for sure. You could almosts squeeze in a buddy who wanted to sleep on the ground too.

 

[Olydog09]

Here are the pics of the smokehouse.