Hornady Podcast 226 Match Bullets for Hunting

[Coleredding00]

The most important thing i got out of it, is that the cavity behind the plastic point is not QCd in the eldm. They admit that they don’t measure whether the gap behind the tip is consistent, and also that the harness of the lead is not checked. This would lead me to believe the stories of more inconsistent expansion on bullets like the 108 vs the 103.

 

[RME]

Maybe if they were meaning just their BTHP bullets.

I listened to that part again and didn’t get any impression they were calling out other companies bullets. It sounded to me like they were probably referring to their own HPBT match bullets and didn’t think to clarify it. There’s a number of HP Sierra Gamekings and IIRC one of Joyce Hornady’s favorite hunting bullets was the old 25 cal 120 gr HP (flat base though, not a BT) out of a 257 Weatherby.

 

[streamerfish]

I listened to that part again and didn’t get any impression they were calling out other companies bullets. It sounded to me like they were probably referring to their own HPBT match bullets and didn’t think to clarify it. There’s a number of HP Sierra Gamekings and IIRC one of Joyce Hornady’s favorite hunting bullets was the old 25 cal 120 gr HP (flat base though, not a BT) out of a 257 Weatherby.

Yeah, thinking about it more. that could be the case.

 

[DangerRanger]

So I’m supposed to believe that hornady doesn’t care about variability in eldm core makeup to the point that
1. They are unacceptable to hunt game with
2. They are acceptable to be represented by their marketing and examples into ballistic gel for TAP line for law enforcement use

Mmmmmkay sure thing

 

[RancherJohn]

I took my elk this year with the 170 EOL out of my 6.8 Western. I went around talking to different people about it at the Western hunt expo and I got told time after time not to shoot any game in the shoulder. Just so happens that their jaws would hit the floor when I would show them a shattered scapula and a broken leg bone on the offside with an accompanied exit hole. Also having massive amounts of damage, with a blood trail downhill 3 feet away from the elk.

I did get finish listening to the podcast and they did mention their testing of the ELD-M. I had to laugh when they talked about 16" not being enough penetration for elk. When processing the elk, his body width didn't even come up to my knee. In my opinion, I don't think elk are that big, to qualify that, I am around 15-18 hand tall horses every day. I would put an elk around the size of a pony for the vital cavity and all.

Obviously, the podcast is through a marketing lens and informational lens. Still interesting to listen to and look at the comments as they come in.

Most people never think about it to the level you did regarding height relative to your knee on the ground or a horse, let alone taking a tape measure to one (also most aren't carrying a tape measure into the woods).

16" of penetration on a behind the ribs quartering away shot will only get you liver, both lungs, and heart. 16" broadside will get both shoulders and everything in between.